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  • Author Author: DAB
  • Date Created: 16 Feb 2014 10:29 PM Date Created
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Why I want to speed up Global Warming!

DAB
DAB
16 Feb 2014

As some of you have seen in past posts, I completely reject the current effort to concern the public about global warming.

 

Mostly I object to the blatant scare tactics and lack of any scientific information that supports their position that we should work to stop it.  This last point is the really ludicrous goal.  When you do the math, we mortal humans have very few options when it comes to altering a natural planetary cycle.

 

So I went to the impeachable data source, the Geologic Record.  The data is very clear.  The earth has alternated between cold earth and warm earth states for the last 2.5 BILLION years.

When you add the Ice Core data, it shows that the cycle has been running about every 100,000 years for the last 700,000 to 800,000 years.

Almost all of the cycles have repeated like clockwork completely without any HUMAN involvement at all.

This last part is key.  The anti-global warming faction want to blame the industrial development by humans as the cause for the latest cycle.  rubbish!

 

The eco faction claims that burning the rain forest and burning fossil fuels has increased the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere and that is the cause of global warming.  Unfortunately, the math just does not work for this claim.

First of all, they are trying to use the Ice Core data as their source for comparing the CO2 levels.  They only made one tiny mistake.  The Ice trapped the CO2 level at about 10,000 feet (3000 meters) or higher.  They then want to compare those values to the current CO2 levels as measured at sea level.  When you look at the atmosphere density numbers, you would need to read twice or three times that sea level data to match the expected CO2 levels trapped in the ice.

 

Note, all of this data is in a paper published by a Polish Geologist who correctly measured the physical process of how the CO2 is first trapped and then dissolved into the water crystals as the weight of the ice compresses each snow level into glacial ice.  His research shows a very clean natural cycle by which the CO2 is removed from the atmosphere on the onset of global cooling.  Over the 50,000 years of the cycle, the CO2 levels are slowly reduced until they reach their minimum levels at the peak of the Ice age, some 12-14,000 years ago.

 

As the planet naturally warms, the ice releases the trapped CO2 until the levels reach their peak in about another 35,000 years from now.  No magic, no Human involvement, just a clean well defined natural cycle.

The latest NASA satellite measured the CO2 accumulations around the planet.  They confirmed that you have the highest concentrations of CO2 in the areas where we see melting ice.  In the high mountains and on both poles.  There were no abnormal CO2 levels in ANY of the industrial centers around the world.  So stopping the use of fossil fuels is not going to have ANY affect on the global warming cycle.

 

Now lets talk about the consequences of global warming.  The Eco factions have claimed that we will all drown as the sea levels rise as the ice melts.  That's not what the Geologic record says.

Yes, the ice will release a lot of water, BUT, ice takes up 10% more volume than water!  So we should se a net reduction in sea levels as the ice melts.

As for the land locked ice, yes it will add some additional water, but they are overlooking one important fact.  As the earth warms, there will be a tremendous absorption of water into the atmosphere.  One clear normal cycle is that warm air can hold a lot more water than cold air.  So as the earth warms, we will see a significant rise in humidity into the upper latitude regions that are currently very dry.

 

When we look into the Geologic Record, we see that a warm earth creates a huge amount of arable land up to the 70 degree latitude level.  That means we will get a huge amount of land to grow crops and support the population.  I do not see that result as being bad for humans.

 

We have also been told that the warming earth will create huge mega storms.  Again, science shows a much different result.  As the seas and the atmosphere warms, it will actually get MORE stable.  Why?  Storms are caused by the mixing of cold dry air and warm moist air.  With warm areas up to the 70 degree latitude area, the amount of cold dry air will be reduced by over 60%.  Most of the earth will experience the afternoon rain forest effect where we will get a short down pour in the late afternoon with just localized thunderstorms.  No mega hurricanes or typhoons, just consistent rain fall.  Most importantly, we will see rising humidity into areas that are now dry arid regions.  The deserts will bloom again!

 

As for living conditions, we will need much less energy to keep warm.  We should also need almost no cooling as the temperature will stabilize at about 85 degrees F for year round temperatures.

With the constant rain fall, we should have plenty of fresh water falling from the sky, so we can provide clean drinking water just about everywhere.  Hydro power can dominate the reduced energy needs of the population and we can use canals and small boats for efficient transportation.

 

I do not know about you, but I am not finding anything to fear here.

 

Plus we have a lot of time to prepare for the event.  We are currently about 13,000 years into the 50,000 year global warming cycle.  So there is absolutely no need to panic.  Yes, we will have some localized flooding along the way, but we have those every year anyway.

 

So while I am sitting in my home with the outside temperature at 30 degrees F, and oh by the way, we have spent much of the last six weeks below that temperature, I find it very desirable to have an early global warming cycle.  So I plan to burn fossil fuels, increase my carbon foot print and put as much CO2 into the atmosphere that I can and I urge all of you to do the same.

Plus I plan to beat any Eco person I meet with a stick, just to get warm. image

 

So I say enough with this Chicken Little doom and gloom propaganda about global warming.  The SCIENCE says don't panic, common sense says don't panic and the Eco people have not provided one shred of supportable data that says we should panic.  So just say "I want Global Warming and I want it NOW!" and join me in silencing these worry warts who know nothing of value.

 

Just my opinion,

DAB

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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 11 years ago +1
    In general I would say to DAB - I can see why you think you might be onto something here, but as I understand it the science does not support your argument. A lot of people who are concerned about the…
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    Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to DAB +1
    "Ecologists are not scientist. Their predictions should not be considered as science. Its just their opinions and all opinions are only worth a bucket of warm spit!" Thats a very unscientific opinion Don…
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    Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to DAB +1
    Actually, probably not! CO2 is plant food
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    johnbeetem over 11 years ago

    I was intrigued by your claims, so I did a bit of Internet research.  I found this interesting page at USA Environmental Protection Agency.

     

    It does confirm what you say about there being a natural cycle of cooling and warming, correlated with CO2 levels in the atmosphere: 800,000 Year Record.

     

    As we can see, CO2 concentration varies between approx 180 ppm and 300 ppm with a period of roughly 100,000 years.  This is the natural variation that the Earth has been able to handle over the last 800,000 years.

     

    However, recent accumulation of CO2 is far more than the max 300 ppm: Keeling Curve.

     

    This is quite disturbing to me and other people who care about the ecosystem, since it suggests new levels that Earth may not be able to handle.

     

    So why has CO2 gone to such a high level?  Models that do not consider the effect of humans are unable to account for it.  Models that include the relentless burning of fossil fuels predict it quite well: Nature alone versus Human Effects.

     

    It seems to me that the Industrial Revolution and the huge surge in human population came at a particularly bad time, i.e., when Earth was already on its natural temperature rise cycle.  If we'd done this 50,000 years ago it may not have mattered.  By doing it now, IMO we're taking the natural temperature rise and making it far worse, perhaps resulting in devastation of the only planet we have.

     

    JMO/YMMV

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    DAB over 11 years ago in reply to johnbeetem

    Hi John,

     

    As you say, the issues around CO2 levels are unresolved.

    My main point is that high CO2 levels will be better for the planet and all plants and animals than low CO2 levels and cold earth conditions.

     

    In my analysis, I have yet to see any downside to plants and animals due to the high CO2 levels.  The projections that the earth will become super hot like Venus show a marked lack of math skills.

     

    From my point of view, Human industry is at best about 1% of the normal CO2 contribution.  The other 99% is not ours to control.  So why are we spending time, energy, and resources on a 1% contribution?

    Especially when we have not accurately accessed the benefits of the higher CO2 levels in supporting more food for the human population.

     

    When the data doesn't work, you cannot just claim that something is bad and attack those people and industries that you do not like or have been persuaded to believe are evil.

    In the long run, we will use up most of the easy to use fossil fuels in a couple of centuries.  That still gives us plenty of time to work on the next source of energy.

     

    High CO2 levels benefit mankind.  So I am all for raising the levels as quickly as we can.

    We could all enjoy a better lifestyle the sooner we get to warm earth conditions.

     

    DAB

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    DAB over 11 years ago in reply to johnbeetem

    Hi John,

     

    As you say, the issues around CO2 levels are unresolved.

    My main point is that high CO2 levels will be better for the planet and all plants and animals than low CO2 levels and cold earth conditions.

     

    In my analysis, I have yet to see any downside to plants and animals due to the high CO2 levels.  The projections that the earth will become super hot like Venus show a marked lack of math skills.

     

    From my point of view, Human industry is at best about 1% of the normal CO2 contribution.  The other 99% is not ours to control.  So why are we spending time, energy, and resources on a 1% contribution?

    Especially when we have not accurately accessed the benefits of the higher CO2 levels in supporting more food for the human population.

     

    When the data doesn't work, you cannot just claim that something is bad and attack those people and industries that you do not like or have been persuaded to believe are evil.

    In the long run, we will use up most of the easy to use fossil fuels in a couple of centuries.  That still gives us plenty of time to work on the next source of energy.

     

    High CO2 levels benefit mankind.  So I am all for raising the levels as quickly as we can.

    We could all enjoy a better lifestyle the sooner we get to warm earth conditions.

     

    DAB

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