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  • Date Created: 2 Oct 2022 7:17 AM Date Created
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When PCBs Are Cheaper Than Lunch, Build PCBs! A DA-15 & Banana to Terminal Block Breakout

Gough Lui
Gough Lui
2 Oct 2022

It wasn't all that long ago that I took the step to get myself acquainted with KiCad and start designing PCBs for manufacture in my spare time - in fact, just two years ago. But since then, I could not have imagined that vendors such as JLCPCB could build five two-layer 100x100mm PCBs and ship them to my house for between AU$8.50 to AU$9.00. For comparison, a McDonalds Small Big Mac meal runs about AU$11.90 as of today in this inflationary environment. This is something I could have never imagined, growing up making PCBs by hand and being told that a double-sided board was already a luxury. Now we get soldermask and silk-screening as part of the deal, along with delivery from China! Sure, it takes about two to three weeks to arrive, but that's a small price to pay for the big saving in shipping cost.

As a result, I spent a bit of time building some solutions to my small annoyances. The first is to do with the DA-15 connections on the back of R&S NGL/NGM/NGU/LCX units for the digital I/O which I never seemed to have any connectors for. This resulted in this breakout which could theoretically work for any DA-15 connection, but the silkscreening is especially helpful for those R&S instruments -

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It is a trivial board to design. It was built with components sourced from element14 - the full project and gerbers are at https://goughlui.com/2022/10/02/project-da-15-d-sub-breakout-for-rs-ngx-lcx-digital-i-o/. A quick look at the BOM reinforces how the component cost makes the PCB cost literally insignificant.

The second addresses the annoyance of a lack of binding posts on modern test equipment. Sure, the shrouded banana serves a function in protecting users from high voltages - but if they aren't around, or aren't in use, then perhaps we should have a way to get away with connecting bare wires as that's often cheaper and more convenient.

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That resulted in this four-way banana to 5.08mm terminal block break-out. Not a perfect design, but it does the job just fine for me - https://goughlui.com/2022/10/02/project-banana-to-terminal-block-breakout-or-where-are-my-binding-posts/. Once again, the parts costs dwarfs that of the PCB, but it does solve a real problem and makes my life quite a bit easier.

So, perhaps what I'm trying to say is ... PCBs are so cheap now, even with the international shipping, that perhaps we can stop obsessing about making things perfect and just send through designs for prototyping whenever it takes our fancy. It's literally "lunch money" but the result may well be more valuable in terms of hassle avoided or things learned. But perhaps the first thing one needs to learn is a bit of patience ... cheap shipping is almost always never going to be fast!

Hope this has been useful - you can build them, at your own risk. If you'd like a board, perhaps you can ask me although I would suspect the cost for me to ship it to you would outweigh the cost of just ordering them built and shipped to you directly!

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    Gough Lui over 2 years ago in reply to dang74

    I'm still yet to taste the luxury (and added considerations necessary) worthy of a 4-layer board design ... but I'm sure that in time, I will probably graduate up to that level of sophistication.

    But it is always a fun challenge to try and achieve something with certain constraints. The cost advantage of the 2-layer process is undeniable, and if you can make it work without any major signal integrity, EMI or size penalties, then that's a win for sure!

    At least, now, I can afford to learn by experience ...

    - Gough

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    dang74 over 2 years ago

    I used to be much more selective about getting boards made.  But, yeah, in the last 5 years or so I made a bunch.  2 Layer boards are especially cheap.  Sometimes I drive myself crazy keeping things to 2 layers when I should just throw in an extra $40 or so to move up to 4 layer.  I like the boards you shared here.  They each serve a practical purpose.

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    Gough Lui over 2 years ago in reply to embeddedguy

    Sure - if there are pre-populated modules, it can be easier and cheaper to source them.

    But many projects will need parts which would be the same whether on PCB, strip board, or breadboard. In that sense, the low cost of PCB manufacturing really makes it competitive as it doesn't exactly cost much more (in some cases, maybe even less) and is a neater solution assuming you get the design correct.

    But yes, the supply chain issues and shortages have driven up the prices quite noticeably, which is annoying to say the least!

    - Gough

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    embeddedguy over 2 years ago

    Thanks for sharing your experience.

    Still, sometimes, I will consider that the custom PCBs are expensive. The reason is that ordering bare PCB is cheap but then sourcing the components and that to sometimes those tiny components which are not available everywhere needs us to order from multiple vendors. Then of course the cost for shipping and cost of customs which is unpredictable quite sometimes.

    So for that reason it still remains expensive. Some companies nowadays recommend parts to use during design phase, like Seeed. This makes things a bit easier.

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    Gough Lui over 2 years ago in reply to dougw

    Awww ... and I was just getting into wirewrap ... jkzjkz.

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