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  • Author Author: mcb1
  • Date Created: 14 Sep 2017 11:37 PM Date Created
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Meter Lead - JW special probes

mcb1
mcb1
14 Sep 2017

Some time ago jw0752 made contact with me and wanted to send me some of his meter probes.

He's been keeping the community up to date as he makes changes to the original concept.

Shop Tips -  Intrusive Meter Probe

 

 

For anyone that hasn't followed John's work, his background is in dentistry equipment repair, and this has been the source of his inspiration for this product.

John Wiltrout's Blog

 

As the blogs testify, John is very practical and has applied this to solving many of the problems faced in his life.

 

 

Good connection

Anyone that uses multimeters regularily will tell you that getting a good connection to the device under test is essential.

More importantly a poor connection can steer you along the wrong repair path, which can cost money and time.

 

One day john was faced with just this problem and his solution was to use a dental burr bit on the end of the lead.

This would break through the coating and allow a good connection.

 

 

Special meter probes are available from manufacturers. I haven't priced them but the one annoying thing is you need to change the lead.

I have a couple of Keysight meters, and they get around this by having interchangable ends on the leads.

I haven't looked to see if Keysight do make a special sharp probe point, but I have seen others.

They are popular in automotive uses where they can pierce the insulation of the wires, but obviously they are dangerous due to the sharp nature required.

 

Johns solution won't pierce wire insulation, but overcomes the safety aspect by providing a flat end with multiple sharp parts that can bite through the thin coatings found on most circuit boards, .

As you can imagine they are not some cheap piece of metal with a token gesture of hardening, they are designed for digging holes into teeth, so the copper and aluminum we encounter is like butter in comparison.

 

In typical fashion John's latest iteration is designed these to simply slip over the end of the existing meter lead ends which means they are a universal fit.

 

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Good meter leads are designed to protect the user from dangerous voltages. They include a wider section to stop fingers slipping down and making contact with the metal end.

The nature of this design makes them difficult to use one handed, and I can only imagine what happens when hand dexterity becomes an issue.

 

To give you an example of how useful these are, I tried measuring a resistor while it was sitting on the bench.

Modern probes have a reduced diameter near the end, and you can try angling the probe to utilise this to make contact, but if you tried this while it was in circuit, it wouldn't work.

Johns probes simply slip onto the end of the probes, and the task is not only possible, but the pressure required is significantly reduced as well.

It becomes so easy that it can be done one handed without much effort at all.

 

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This shows you why.

 

 

 

Probe Slipping

Slipping is a cause of many electrical accidents. You're trying to balance a meter, put one meter probe onto one connection and then stick the other meter probe onto another point in the electrical switchboard.

In many cases there is a slip somewhere and with careful thought it won't be you making contact with a dangerous voltage.

Sometimes you get away from a shock, but your hand makes contact with the metal edge or some other surface, and you have an injury, bruise or other physical injury, and to top it off you drop the meter.

The non slip benefits of these can be considered a safety device, but if you're also dropping meters, then it can be a cost saving as well.

 

My next tests involve 'lending' them to some of the other teams at work, and seeing what they think.

They are already trying to borrow my Keysight Insulation Resistance Tester, and I'm happy to lend it out, but it comes attached to me so I get it back.  image

Keysight U1461A Insulation Resistance Tester - Review

 

 

 

Conclusions

So by now you will have guessed that I'm sold on these special probes.\

These are a prototype using off the shelf components, and assembled into a working product.

There are limitations on the abuse they can take from sideways pressure, but once they become a manufactured item, this will not be a factor.

 

I hope the ability to change ends can be incorporated, but the costing may be that this is not required.

Whatever the final product, I'm sure that meter manufacturers will be scrambling to offer it in their range, and it would be nice to think they reward John for using his concept.

 

 

 

Just remember you saw it here first at element14 community.

 

Thanks for thinking of me John.

Mark

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 7 years ago +5
    off-topic, but these are the probes of my first meter from the early 80's. Safety wasn't a thing back then . Used this on 3-phase 360 Volt circuits during my studies and no-one ever commented on that.…
  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett over 7 years ago in reply to jw0752 +4
    I've got a set of John's lovely probes as well and I find them absolutely brilliant - best probe I've ever used. I looked into making my own and I solved the dental probe socket issue with these standard…
  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 7 years ago +4
    I'm a fan too. They are brilliant. I have #34, 35 and 36 size drills. In my experience, the #34 bites the best in soldered pads. I'm doing SMD work typically, where - for passives - the solder is a mountain…
  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 7 years ago in reply to mcb1

    True. I wouldn't want to have this meter in my hands or in front of my face when something goes wrong in the 1000 V or 10 A mode.

     

    I use it these days when I need to have a visual clue of something increasing or decreasing.

    And because I've used it for many years, I don't have to really look at it. I can get by looking at the position of the needle in the corner of one eye what the approx. figure is.

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    mcb1 over 7 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    The probes weren't the only thing stopping it from being a safe meter nowdays.

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    mcb1 over 7 years ago in reply to jw0752

    John

    You did send some tips thanks very much for those.

     

    I was curious what the retention mechanism was, and obviously it forms part of the electrical circuit.

    I did read your post and wondered if they were all the same.

     

    I am sure a manufacturer will be able to make something similar that is less expensive

    I agree and hope that they reward you for your idea.

     

     

    Thanls for sharing

    Mark

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    DAB over 7 years ago

    I can appreciate how well these tips can improve contact for measurements.

     

    John is a tremendous innovator.

     

    DAB

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    rachaelp over 7 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    Jan Cumps wrote:

     

    Safety third

    Ahhh the good old days.... image

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