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  • Date Created: 4 Oct 2015 5:12 AM Date Created
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Salvaging a CFL - Hidden Treasure

jw0752
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4 Oct 2015

Everyone is familiar with the Compact Fluorescent Light or CFL. Since they appeared on the scene they have invaded our homes and pushed the poor old incandescent bulb nearly to extinction. Most of the CFLs that I have purchased had 5 year guarantees and bragged about 5000 hours of service. Unfortunately based on the number that have failed I believe that this is a bit of an exaggeration. A while back I stopped throwing them away outright and started salvaging them for electronic parts. Here is a failed bulb that I am about to crack open.


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I open the base of the bulb by putting a flat screwdriver in the crack and twisting. Sometimes it is necessary to tap the screwdriver into the plastic before I twist. While the glass tube is attached it is a good idea to handle the bulb with a pair of work gloves. If the glass breaks it would be dangerous and if you slip with the screwdriver the gloves will protect you. Once the base is open you will find a small circuit board attached to the base with two wires and also to each of the tube ends with two wires.


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Cut the wires to the base and the tube and dispose of the base and tube. Be sure to save the high temperature pieces of spaghetti that cover the wires as they can be very useful for future builds. Sometimes there will be a small inline 2A fuse also. The next step is to clamp the circuit board and begin to remove the parts with your solder iron. Nearly all the boards I have encountered have the same basic parts on the board. They vary slightly from manufacturer to manufacturer but almost always there is a similar bill of materials.


Here is a layout of the parts that I got from the board I took apart this afternoon:


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In this case, besides the usual capacitor, resistors, spaghetti, inductors, and diodes, there are a couple of power NPN transistors with built in flyback diodes. I have used these in projects to drive motors and LEDs. If you need to there is a hole to heat sink them. Also in the haul is a BR-3 trigger diode that can be used in conjunction with an SCR to make a motor speed control or a light dimmer for incandescent lights. The Electrolytic in the middle of the picture has a 200 VDC rating which is a little high for my needs but who knows what I may try to build next week. There were also (7) 1N4007 diodes which are rated at 1kV 1A. There is a small 0.2 mH inductor and a larger 1 or 2 mH inductor. In most of the units I have salvaged the components are all marked for values though the transistors are OEM and usually will not be identifiable except by analysis by a component tester. There is also usually a small toroid transformer that can be used as is or rewound for other uses.


Since this is a failed bulb that we are salvaging I usually test the components and discard any that do not test properly. The bulbs however seldom fail due to component failure. It is usually a bad filament in the tube or a solder joint that has crystallized and cracked.


You will not get rich salvaging bulbs but if you like playing with electronics and want a relaxing 45 minutes this is not a bad way to go and you get some new free components to play with to boot.


John

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  • artful_bodger
    artful_bodger over 9 years ago +2
    None of my failed CFLs (220V) have made anything like their advertised life. I've only ever bought branded ones. The most common failure I've had is one of the rectifier diodes, which also takes out the…
  • artful_bodger
    artful_bodger over 9 years ago in reply to jw0752 +1
    Glad to help & share the information around Good luck with those repairs - watch out for the charge held in the large electrolytic during the repair! Chris
  • DAB
    DAB over 9 years ago +1
    Hi John, Great post. I had not thought to look inside the CFL's, but you have opened new toys for me to explore. One note of safety though, sometimes they use some bad metals to coat the glass with. So…
  • jw0752
    jw0752 over 9 years ago in reply to DAB

    Thanks DAB. So far I haven't broken any tubes but there is always that possibility.

    John

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    jw0752 over 9 years ago in reply to johnbeetem

    Hi John,

    Several of the ones I took apart had a small 2A fuse but not all of them. Heat is an issue in their failure as I have seen circuit boards beginning to carbonize due to the heat. From what I have heard so far the LEDs have their own set of problems too, usually related to heat. I think you are correct that the incandescent bulbs are the safest.

    John

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  • DAB
    DAB over 9 years ago in reply to johnbeetem

    Hi John,

     

    I don't know about smell, but the output frequency of CFL's trigger my migraines, so I am hoping that the LED bulbs are better.

     

    Given the circuitry John Wiltrout just showed us I can see where a bad transformer or capacitor could stink up the house.

     

    DAB

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    johnbeetem over 9 years ago

    I wonder about CFLs burning my house down.  When an incandescent bulb failed, it just burned out -- sometimes with a pop, but well contained and no hazard.  I've had CFLs generate horrible smells as they failed, making me think they could start a fire or expose me to toxic smoke.

     

    I would hope they design CFLs to fail in a safe way.  But then they manufacture them in China and who knows what components get changed to save a few pennies.

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    DAB over 9 years ago

    Hi John,

     

    Great post.

    I had not thought to look inside the CFL's, but you have opened new toys for me to explore.

     

    One note of safety though, sometimes they use some bad metals to coat the glass with.  So make sure you where a face mask so as not to inhale any of the dust.

     

    The rubber gloves ae also useful as some of the metals can be absorbed by the skin.

     

    DAB

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