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Simple project for 10-11 year old.

patkelly
patkelly over 13 years ago

I'm looking to do a project with some 10-11 year olds in a local school which uses electronics to show how they are feeling. I was thinking about a traffic light system where I can get the children to build the kit and then use it in under an hour. They would move the light to red when frustrated/mad and green for happy etc.

 

I have some of these Multicomp Nano boardsMulticomp Nano boards (1813414) which we can pre-program, and then add the rest of the part to it.

 

Any ideas would be greatfully received

 

Pat

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  • billabott
    billabott over 13 years ago in reply to patkelly +1
    Did you ask the school if they would be okay with the students building lie detectors? I am opposed to knowledge suppression in all its forms. And your statement certainly set off my alarm bells. Okay…
  • YT2095
    YT2095 over 13 years ago in reply to patkelly +1
    if they`re going to be stand-alone boards, then a 9V batt and some clips would be an idea I also looked at those LEDs and from what I can see, I think you`ll need resistors for them, 330 Ohm or there abouts…
  • patkelly
    patkelly over 13 years ago in reply to billabott +1
    I second that, a massive thank you to Mr Nielsen, and everyone else who has contributed here I really can't believe the support you have all given on this.
  • YT2095
    YT2095 over 13 years ago

    perhaps you could also employ an Analogue pin to work with Galvanic Skin Responses/resistance, you`d Hook-em-up image  then take a sample reading every 10 seconds for a minute, add the samples together and divide my 6 to get your Average, and then use this value as the baseline for tests.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_conductance

     

    you could still use the LEDs and even the Tone generator to listen to fluctuations under stress or when happy etc... and then see how that compares.

    croc clips on some tinfoil rings would be ok as electrodes as long as both metals are the same.

     

     

    just a thought image

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  • patkelly
    patkelly over 13 years ago in reply to YT2095

    Hi YT

     

    This is a great idea, but a little complicated for the first project i think. I'm thinking some this a little more manual, where they could move a slider or switch to show how they were feeling yesterday or how they feel about something that they will be doing tomorrow.

     

    Pat

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  • YT2095
    YT2095 over 13 years ago in reply to patkelly

    Ok, how about using an Analogue pin to control a Tone, and see if you can make musical instruments with them?

    you could use all sorts of Input devices then, a Light sensor, pencil leads for variable resistors, slider pots, switches with resistors, even a wet peice of string or salty dough, the sky`s the limit really image

    it`s unlikely they`ll get on Top of the Pops, but it`s nice and interactive.

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  • billabott
    billabott over 13 years ago

    That is a Great Plan.

    The idea and techniques of bio-feedback should be pretty well documented through out the web.

    I guess you would have to figure out how to detect, tune, and amplify the alpha and/or delta wave of the person under test.

     

    -=Syntax Matters=-

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  • fustini
    fustini over 13 years ago in reply to YT2095

    Yeah, theremin style output is great way to explore with analog inputs.  An infrared proximity sensorinfrared proximity sensor is also a fun analog sensor.  I've played around with a few, and Jeremy also does in his Arduino Tutorial #4. 

     

    In addition to audio tone output, it's interesting experiement to map analog input to analog output (PWM) hooked up to an LED or motor.  I had the IR prox senors input map to servo motor output after seeing Jeremy do it in Tutorial #5.

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  • fustini
    fustini over 13 years ago in reply to billabott

    In fact, there are a couple element14 members who've done GSR project image

     

    Simon Monk created a Lie Detector for his 30 Arduino Project for the Evil Genius book:

     

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    I tried a couple different approaches for GSR in the Pumping Station: One biosensor array project:

     

    http://www.element14.com/community/groups/pumping-station-one/blog/2011/05/08/ouch-sensing-galvanic-skin-response-gsr

     

    Cheers,

    Drew

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  • patkelly
    patkelly over 13 years ago in reply to fustini

    Thank you for all your help guys, but I'm not sure the school would really like us building lie detectors plus it's a bit too complex for the pupils to get their heads round in an hour. I'm really looking for something that the children can pick up and build in say 20-30 mins that displays a representation of a feeling, using say a board, some LEDs and a switch or two. Maybe I'm looking for the impossible?

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  • ntewinkel
    ntewinkel over 13 years ago in reply to patkelly

    In that kind of timeframe your traffic light is probably the best way to go.

     

    If you're using the Nanos, you could just have one momentary switch which when pressed lights the next LED in sequence. So you would have 1 switch on a pin, and 3 different colour LEDs on 3 separate pins.

    If you have computers available, you could make uploading the sketch part of the lesson, in which case you could start with one LED, then add a switch to turn that LED on and off, then go to 3 LEDs.

     

    Would you have the Nanos on breadboards too? There would be plenty for them to learn just with breadboards, uploading sketches, and hooking up switches and LEDs.

     

    Good luck! Hope it goes well image

     

    Cheers,

    -Nico

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  • dirtdiver
    dirtdiver over 13 years ago

    Hey that lie detector idea sounds interesting,

    the GSR detector is represented by two metal electrodes ?(any specific material?)

    The program does most of the work - have that gsr sensor as an analog input and read it a few times, get an average, and if it's over a certain point turn an led red?

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  • billabott
    billabott over 13 years ago in reply to patkelly

    Did you ask the school if they would be okay with the students building lie detectors?  I am opposed to knowledge suppression in all its forms.  And your statement certainly set off my alarm bells.

     

    Okay, so if you want them to manually output "how they are feeling" using a RGB LED and the input device must be analog or digital.  The simplest analog would be a potentiometer and the simplest digital would be dip switch.  A three position switch would allow binary counting from 0 to 7  which corresponds to the capabilities of the LED.  As an optional challenge you could add a block of code to  pulse the brightness of the selected color(s)  in the LED via PWM.   And beyond that, the pulse rate (fast or slow) could be modified based on another bank of dip switches or a pot.  I think the arduino has enough I/O pins to do this and demonstrate all the basic modes of I/O.  Therefore, in my definition I2C is an advanced mode.  Savvy?

     

    Use a white ping pong ball for a diffuser over the LED if needed or available.

    Don't forget the current limiting resistors for each leg of the LED(s).

     

    -=Syntax Matters=-

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