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Is there a sensor that can be used for detecting a dead human body?

rcmf123
rcmf123 over 8 years ago

Does the dead human body still emit infrared? Will sensors like omron d6t still work?

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  • dougw
    dougw over 6 years ago +3
    I think smell is the best current method (using cadaver dogs). It might be possible to design a sensitive smell detector using ion mobility spectroscopy, but it is a pretty big research project.
  • robogary
    robogary over 4 years ago in reply to vandia +3
    just to be OCD :-) corpses dont get cold, they get to room temperature, maybe a bit above by heat generated by decomposition. Zombies on the other hand do measure just a touch over room temperature since…
  • rsc
    rsc over 8 years ago +2
    A heart rate monitor would probably tell you if you're dead.
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  • vandia
    vandia over 8 years ago

    You cannot locate a dead body by heat signals, unless it's freshly deceased. If that's what you're looking for, look up heat sensors.

     

    To find a dead body with little to no heat signal, more than 6 hours after death, it's my understanding the body passes off a number of noxious gasses that causes a bad odor, including cadaverine and putrescine. While I'm not a chemist, but can hopefully help point you in the right direction, if you know one that can tell you what compounds may coincide with those.

     

    Also, WHICH sensor you're using depends on application, like if you're wearing or carrying the gear, if it's automated or remote controlled, etc. This changes if it should resist humidity, and other factors.

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  • mrdongoerge
    mrdongoerge over 6 years ago in reply to vandia

    Is it possible to detect a human being trapped under a 10 inch concrete? if so what kind of sensor is used?

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    mrdongoerge over 6 years ago in reply to vandia

    Is it possible to detect a human being trapped under a 10 inch concrete? if so what kind of sensor is used?

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  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett over 6 years ago in reply to mrdongoerge

    As ever with such problems it is best to stick with the classic sequence of Ready, Aim, Fire

     

    Most of the discussion above seems to be based on  a Ready Fire Aim sequence which almost never works image

     

    First the spec:

     

    Detect dead body, how old, from how far, obscured by what (nothing -> concrete (and is that concrete poured (we are looking for Mafia victims) or in lumps (earthquake victims)) etc

     

    When you have defined what you want to do, you can start to develop a solution.

     

    Often it's best to look at examples of systems that work - my dog would use her nose, a vulture would use its eyes, each is an optimal solution for different body searching demands.

     

    MK

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  • beacon_dave
    beacon_dave over 6 years ago in reply to michaelkellett

    "a vulture would use its eyes"

    vultures appear to rely on using smell according to this presentation:

    https://www.ted.com/talks/lauren_pharr_how_vultures_can_help_us_solve_crimes/transcript?language=en

     

    they don't appear to be able to detect the corpse that quickly though according to this study: 

    https://phys.org/news/2012-03-forensics-texas-focuses-vultures.html

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 6 years ago in reply to michaelkellett

    michaelkellett  wrote:

     

    As ever with such problems it is best to stick with the classic sequence of Ready, Aim, Fire

     

    > concrete (and is that concrete poured (we are looking for Mafia victims) ...

     

    MK

    niche product: boot-shaped-concrete detector for river beds ...

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  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett over 6 years ago in reply to beacon_dave

    Ted may not be the optimum authority on Vultures:

     

    https://www.allaboutbirds.org/do-vultures-find-dead-animals-by-smell-or-by-tracking-predators-or-scavengers-on-the-groun…

     

    MK

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  • beacon_dave
    beacon_dave over 6 years ago in reply to michaelkellett

    Indeed. However that article would appear to support the TED talk in that turkey vultures rely on smell, but it appears to be unique to that bird with other vultures appearing to rely on vision.

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  • dougw
    dougw over 6 years ago in reply to mrdongoerge

    Micropower impulse radar can theoretically detect heartbeats through concrete, but you need a very stable platform.

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