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transistor used as a button

dirtdiver
dirtdiver over 13 years ago

Hi,

Im using a transistor as a button that is pressing a button on  a  hacked keyboard.

Heres how the hacked  keyboard works (that is the small PCB iside the keyboard)-

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Now what I want to do is use a transistor to connect the pins and get a letter.Heres how i did it .My questios is it correct couse im having some issues

with it like getting random letters or not getting any at all.

image

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    0 YT2095 over 13 years ago

    it`s not a Bad idea, but the use of a 4016 or 4069 would have probably been better and more like an actual switch.

    you`ll have to get the timing right too (within reason) else you could either Miss the scan or hit it twice for instance.

    it May be an idea to also bias the transistors base down to deck to preclude any spurious triggerings/noise.

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    0 dirtdiver over 13 years ago in reply to YT2095

    The 4016 is a great idea- exactly the thing I was looking for.I will see if I can find one..or two couse i need like 7 of these.

    So this works like a switch - two pins for  pin4 and pin5 and a 3rd pin going into a digital pin, right?

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    0 YT2095 over 13 years ago in reply to dirtdiver

    yes, it`s just like your transistor idea in principal, but will be seen more like a propper key press, and of course it`s bi-directional, so it doesn`t matter what side goes to where (unlike a transistor).

    the 74125 will do the same and there is 6 of them on a chip, but these Are directional, so you`ll need to know the Scan lines from the inputs, and of course these are 5v only devices.

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    0 fustini over 13 years ago in reply to YT2095

    Thanks for the idea, too.  I'll give this chip a try.

     

    I had been looking to control power to an Arduino shield recently.  I started by trying to use a transistor as a switch but could not get it working reliably (prob just due to my ignorance of proper biasing, etc).  I ended up using a 5v reed relay which has worked great.  However, I've felt it's not very efficient solution, especially since the whole point of selectively cutting power to the shield was to save battery life.

     

     

    Cheers,

    Drew

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    0 YT2095 over 13 years ago in reply to fustini

    well, this chip does have limitations in that there is a small resistance across the switch when "closed" and natually it`s current carrying capacity will be significantly less than that of a metal-on-metal contact (as in your relay).

    but they`re cheap enough, and worth carrying in your arsenel of parts even if it doesn`t quite work out for you in That particular application.

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    0 fustini over 13 years ago in reply to YT2095

    Ah, good point about the current.  The shield has a wifi radio which uses up to 210mA max at 3.3V.  That exceeds the current and power dissaption ratings for the 4016 variants I just looked up.  Anyways, I'll keep in mind for future endevors like you advised.

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    0 dirtdiver over 13 years ago in reply to YT2095

    I wont have any problems with the current right, its a keyboard after all image.. it cant be using more than 20-40mA per button ..i think

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    0 dirtdiver over 13 years ago in reply to dirtdiver

    Oh and where can I find one

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    0 YT2095 over 13 years ago in reply to dirtdiver

    so as to be without bias, here`s the 1`st on ebay I found just:rhttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-CD4016-HCF4016-Quad-Bilaterial-Switch-C-MOS-IC-/180710504134?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item2a132f76c6

     

    and no, you could drive several keyboard switches with a single switch, you`ll be fine image

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    0 dirtdiver over 13 years ago in reply to YT2095

    thanks,oh and what does bias mean image

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