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Eye bulb enlightner LED

geppenzord
geppenzord over 9 years ago

Hi to every body!

I'm new of this website and I have a favor to ask. I need to build a sort of table lamp with only 2 LED, a potentiometer to adjust the intensity of the light and a swich to turn on and off, everything powered by a 9V battery.

The only problem I don't know how calculate all the parts to built it  and off course what kind of other material I need to made it, I have some basics in elettronis (really basic XD) I know how recognize the component I know how soldering, but thats it image

Please if there is somebody that can help me I will be really happy image

Ps sorry for my bad english....

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  • geppenzord
    geppenzord over 9 years ago in reply to shabaz +1
    Thanks a lot shabaz! I'll check tonight during my night shift XD I really need to learn because I always curious and thirsty of knowledge XP Yes, if you have everything ready is better but you lose the…
  • shabaz
    0 shabaz over 9 years ago

    Hi Giuseppe,

     

    Check out this link: I Want to Do Electronics!  Where do I start?

    Also there are circuits at talkingelectronics, if you hit ctrl-F and search for 'dimmer' you'll find an example. Its not as simple as just a potentiometer and an LED, it implements 'PWM' (which can be googled).

    But, you could (should) also experiment with LEDs and a pack of resistors, a 9V battery and a potentiometer, to see how things behave, it might suit your needs. You'll need these parts anyway even if you later decide you want to improve the circuit. For the formula, the LED wikipedia page is not bad, it will send you to a link with an LED circuit, which has some calculations.

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    0 geppenzord over 9 years ago in reply to shabaz

    Thanks a lot shabaz!

    I'll check tonight during my night shift XD I really need to learn because I always curious and thirsty of knowledge XP

    Yes, if you have everything ready is better but you lose the funny image

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    0 D_Hersey over 9 years ago

    Giuseppe, you face two issues here, basically.  One is the non-linear characteristics of the LED.  The other is the Weber-Fechner law:

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weber%E2%80%93Fechner_law 

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    0 geppenzord over 9 years ago in reply to D_Hersey

    Hi Don Hersey, sorry can I ask you to be more specific and simple, because i don't understand the issue that you tell me... Sorry and thanks for your help image

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    0 geppenzord over 9 years ago in reply to D_Hersey

    Maybe I didn't put enough information, I would like use a high potential LEDs and with a potentiometer I would like to reduce the intensity of the light, I don't need a realy bright light because can hurt the human eye.

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    0 D_Hersey over 9 years ago

    The problem with that, Guiseppe, is that the delta impedance of your LED around threshold is low and temperature dependent.  So, a driver as you describe it would either not turn the LED on very well, or risk turning it on too much.  Typically, only signal LEDs are energized through a resistor, because it is easy to waste lotsa power through the ballast resistor.  So, the designers of high-power LED drivers with chopping schemes, much of the ballast R being replaced by L, which powers the LED during the no-supply-current interval.  You can order dimmable LED drivers that are chopping and current-mode output.  These will do what you want efficiently.

     

    Weber-Fechner states that for the perception of a stimulus to a biological system to seem to double in power, it must actually be squared.  This is why volume pots on audio amps tend to be non-linear.

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    0 geppenzord over 9 years ago in reply to D_Hersey

    I search on line for a wile to see wich product could be the best for me... So you sudgest to use a dimmer for led powered by a 12 volt battery and easily connect the 2 high power LED with an wire extention?  Am I correct?

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    0 geppenzord over 9 years ago in reply to D_Hersey

    So, do you sudgest to use a dimmer powered by a 12V battery and join wit a extended wires the 2 LED?

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    0 geppenzord over 9 years ago in reply to shabaz

    So,  if, for example,  I use this dimmer powered by a 12v battery and on the output I connect 4 extensions wires and in the and  the 2 LED it will be fine right?  Or I need to protect the LED with resistences?

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00K67Y47C/ref=mp_s_a_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1474399627&sr=8-11&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65…

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    0 shabaz over 9 years ago in reply to geppenzord

    Hi Giuseppe,

     

    I'm afraid I know as much about it as you do. This dimmer isn't an electronic component with a datasheet, it is an end product with little information on that page. Also we don't know what LEDs you want to dim. A light strip as shown on that page isn't just an LED or LED(s). It is a circuit of LEDs and resistors. It can be driven with no series resistor because the resistors are already in the circuit.

    That linked product might work but I'm only guessing given the photo where they show it connected to a strip. It might not work. It is unlikely to damage a strip of LEDs+resistors designed for a 12V supply. It is cheap so maybe worth a try. No guarantees.

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