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Long run Gate control HELP!?!

MrMiz
MrMiz over 10 years ago

Hello all I'm your friendly neighbor hood Newbie and shocker I need the most basic of help. I'm attempting to setup a entry gate control button for my grandfather on his property so that he doesn't have to drive down to his gate to get within wireless control to open his gate to let people in. The house is approximately 800 ft away from the gate. As part of the deal I'm already working on getting normal 110v/120v supply to the gate so I can install a new Liftmaster LA500 gate system for him. I contacted Lift Master and 2 install companies and they had no idea how to set this up. They had devices that were local to the gate that you could push a button/enter a code to open the gate, but they didn't have any idea's for a button 800ft away. I'm doing all this for my grandpa out of my own pocket and I have to save as much money as possible so I'm trying to do it all myself.

So here is my "thoughts" - at the house I setup some kind of switch/relay at the button so that when the button is hit it sends a 5v (or whatever the LA500 input is) signal down a low voltage line that I will install with the 110/120 line to the gate. At the gate I will attach the 5v line to the normal input for accessories (the code pad etc). 

So here are the questions. What should I be looking for for parts for the button/switch/relay? Will 5v or "low voltage" travel 800ft? Since power is going to be run to the gate is there a simpler way to put the electronics down at the gate rather than at the house?

 

Any experience you all could provide would be greatly appreciated. I'll even appreciate comments on where would be a better place to start my research. In my Rural area of the country there are few or no electronic experts and I have about a 2 hour drive to get to a bigger city where more knowledgeable people reside. I have a decent amount of electrical experience and I'm a novice with electronics. I plan on doing extensive research once I have a better understanding of what I need to do this.

 

Thank you in advance.

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  • jw0752
    jw0752 over 10 years ago +1
    Hi MrMiz, Here is a link to something similar to what I had in mind. http://www.amazon.com/Intercom-DIY-ICW133-STAND-ALONE-Communicator-Intercoms/dp/B00F1YRVDO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1413956342&sr=8-1&keywords…
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    0 MrMiz over 10 years ago

    Ok so the doorbell might not be a good option. It looks like from the gate manual that it has a N.C. 24v and a N.O. 24v accessories section. See pg 33 on the following manual to find out if I'm understanding it right:

    http://www.liftmaster.com/CatalogResourcesV3/en-us/shared/files/tucmanuals/0136213.pdf

     

    Normal doorbells I've found have been 16v max. So I'm think I'm going with a :

    https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9341

    I think that should work and it's pretty cheap.

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    0 jw0752 over 10 years ago in reply to MrMiz

    Hi MrMiz,  I have looked over the manual you attached. This unit works just like a regular garage door opener. If you want to run it off a single pushbutton it will work just like the inside button works on a standard garage door. You are right that doorbells operate off 16 volts and the only reason a door bell button may not work is if it is a lighted button and the 24 volt of the gate system might make the bulb too bright. If you get a doorbell button that is not lit it will work perfectly well on the 24 volt system. You will not have to provide the 24 volts that is mentioned. This voltage will come from the control of the gate. All you will have to do is run 2 wires fron the SBC (Single Button Control) terninal back to the house and hook a button to it. The Spark Fun switch will work fine if you want to use it. Just be sure to use the common and NO of the 3 connections on this switch. Let me know if this doesn't clear things up a little.

    John

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    0 MrMiz over 10 years ago in reply to jw0752

    thanks John. I'm actually amazed a how simple this is. I'm not sure why I'm having so much trouble with an installer... It must because they don't want to work in rural areas, but you helped me get to the answer and I can't thank you enough!

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  • supper_slash
    0 supper_slash over 10 years ago in reply to MrMiz

    Alot of times, manual labor or good workers are hard to find.

    I no it is here in Arkansas.

    Good thing you are doing for grand. keep it up.

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    0 MrMiz over 10 years ago in reply to supper_slash

    I do know that was part of it Lupe, one guy flat out told me they only rented little trenchers and he didn't want to charge me for renting a big trencher for 800ft. Which I appreciate the honest but that means that I'm going to have to rent it myself now... Sometimes your the only one willing to do the work.

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  • supper_slash
    0 supper_slash over 10 years ago in reply to MrMiz

    I no, i have been thinking of a wireless solution for you, but all of them are to complex for me to comment on.

    I no u could use a solar panel, and 2 arduinos to trigger the gate, but, i don't have The experience to assist you on that rout.And, 800ft is pushing it, i think, so.

    Any how, I am glad John and the others got you taken care of.

    Remember, the line don't need to be buried too deep, unless it is getting driven on.

     

    Everyone here is so help-full.

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    0 MrMiz over 10 years ago in reply to supper_slash

    Yeah I was way over thinking it.. I've spend a ton of time researching relays, transformers, I was even looking at the arduino's too but thankfully it's way WAY easier than I thought. I do really appreciate the help from this site. This really is just a way to make my grandpas life a little easier and I'm luck it's something so simple.

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    0 MrMiz over 10 years ago in reply to supper_slash

    Yeah I was way over thinking it.. I've spend a ton of time researching relays, transformers, I was even looking at the arduino's too but thankfully it's way WAY easier than I thought. I do really appreciate the help from this site. This really is just a way to make my grandpas life a little easier and I'm luck it's something so simple.

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