OLinuXino A20-Lime2 ?

Further kudos for Olimex, from an entirely different angle.

They're a progressive and forward-looking outfit, and so their shop (link to A10-OLinuXino-LIME) is on IPv6.

All my Firefox's multiple 6's light up nicely:

Olimex is getting there through a Hurricane Electric tunnel, which demonstrates how anyone can get onto IPv6 even if their ISP doesn't support it natively.

Morgaine.

You know, I never even noticed they were on IPv6... I just take it for granted these days that IPv6 works seamlessly.

So how many did you order then ?

Morgaine Dinova wrote:

 

selsinork wrote:

 

Next day delivery from Olimex HQ in Bulgaria to me in the UK      Xmas is early this year !

Awesome!!!

 

Very.  Olimex say it could be up to three days for them to ship something depending on how busy they are, then 2-3 days UPS within Europe.

The reality was that I had the tracking number about 90 mins after placing the order. Took a while to show up on the ups tracking page, and then a while to show the scheduled delivery date.. Very surprised when it said it'd be here today, I'd been expecting the second half of next week.

The downside of course is that the shipping on a single 30 euro part ends up being a significant percentage of the end cost, so you'll want to get a few things to make it worthwhile, not that you should have any problems with that!  But with interesting products and excellent service, I'm liking Olimex more and more

To @e14, you've missed out on a sale, again. Please start stocking more Olimex SBC's. Wandboards too.

shabaz wrote:

 

I'm sure it is the same connector,

Oh, it'll be the same one.. I was more meaning I'm not sure if your battery will fit inside the case, mostly due to the standoff's holding it all together.

selsinork wrote:

 

To @e14, you've missed out on a sale, again. Please start stocking more Olimex SBC's. Wandboards too.

Well now that we know about their MarS board, it's looking like a conflict of interest between Farnell the distributor and E14/Embest the board manufacturer --- they're pushing their own product by omitting others.  When a distributor isn't agnostic to the products it sells, it's no longer working in the best interests of its customers.

Morgaine.

Although it's not an area that sparks our interest much here, OLinuXino is definitely invading the Pi's media consumer territory.  This Olimex blog "QtAV running on A13-OLinuXino-WIFI with hardware acceleration" shows good video performance even while applying effects, and mireq's Github page shows how easy it is to work with that toolkit.

The LIME series is going to be popular for all kinds of reasons.

Morgaine.

PS. A few days ago a related blog post showed "Qt5.2 running on A13-OLinuXino-WIFI OSHW Linux computer", and while the eye candy effects were a bit excessive in my functional view, they certainly demonstrated the power and flexibility of Qt5.

Morgaine Dinova wrote:

Well now that we know about their MarS board, it's looking like a conflict of interest between Farnell the distributor and E14/Embest the board manufacturer

That's somewhat to be expected, sell stuff you can make a bigger margin on first....  Stuff you manufacture yourself may also skip the queue and be something you'll have in your catalogue earlier.

If it was that simple, you'd expect the MarS to be a lot more prominent here, but it really isn't. The other problem with MarS is that the community around it is going to be tiny. There's decent enough communities around Boundary/Wand that it may not matter though.

Morgaine Dinova wrote:

 

Although it's not an area that sparks our interest much here, OLinuXino is definitely invading the Pi's media consumer territory.  This Olimex blog "QtAV running on A13-OLinuXino-WIFI with hardware acceleration" shows good video performance

I was watching that earlier...  From what I've been reading, it's still somewhat of a black art to get CedarX and all of the pieces working together. I've not investigated fully yet, but it seems that some parts are binary blobs too.  Very impressive demo anyway!

LIME + sata drive taped to the back of the TV running something like this is going to catch a lot of attention from the media player crowd I'd think.

Maybe the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing?

Certainly Embest building a board but Farnell not promoting it for them makes no business sense at all.  And you're totally right that without a community around it, it's going absolutely nowhere, which means that there won't be significant profits from it and so the development costs went down the drain.  And that in turn means that if this were a reason for not selling Wandboard / A20-OLinuXino then they'd be losing on the left hand as manufacturers and losing on the right hand as distributors as well.

The whole thing looks like mismanagement.  Maybe Farnell has gotten too big, and employees now no longer care?

Morgaine.

Morgaine Dinova wrote:

Maybe Farnell has gotten too big, and employees now no longer care?

Possibly, but just as likely that SBC's are a tiny part of their overall business and that's why they don't get the resources.  They're certainly much more complicated to sell and support compared to reels of SMT resistors or whatever, so someone makes a business decision on what makes more sense.

Morgaine Dinova wrote:

 

Maybe Farnell has gotten too big,

and as someone who has a day job working for a company many times larger than farnell, I agree that getting too big is a problem. getting things done starts to require committee meetings and meetings to discuss the previous meeting etc..  That then leads to the possibility of the behemoth being too slow to react at times.

selsinork wrote:

 

They're certainly much more complicated to sell and support compared to reels of SMT resistors or whatever, so someone makes a business decision on what makes more sense.

The counter-argument to that though is that Farnell sell quite a number of SBCs, including earlier members of the OLinuXino range and BBB and SL and now MarS, so there's no sign of them optimizing for products that require less support.  And MarS is quite new, so there hasn't been a decision of that kind made only recently either.

Morgaine.

selsinork wrote:

 

They're certainly much more complicated to sell and support compared to reels of SMT resistors or whatever, so someone makes a business decision on what makes more sense.

The counter-argument to that though is that Farnell sell quite a number of SBCs, including earlier members of the OLinuXino range and BBB and SL and now MarS, so there's no sign of them optimizing for products that require less support.  And MarS is quite new, so there hasn't been a decision of that kind made only recently either.

Morgaine.

Morgaine Dinova wrote:

 

 

so there's no sign of them optimizing for products that require less support.

You expect the PHB to have a reason for the decision that makes sense ?

Oh you're right!

I'd forgotten that destruction of assets was the new management-approved form of "upgrade" now.

Morgaine.

You mean destruction of assets while senior management get huge bonuses for being exceedingly successful at said destruction don't you ?

Yes johnbeetem , you're right, Dilbert is way too close to the mark