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at what point does automated assembly make sense

autodeskguest
autodeskguest over 17 years ago

Hello, a question for those of you with manufacturing experience:

 

At what point do the added cost and efforts for automated assembly make

sense?

 

Assuming the board is mostly SMT, properly designed and not terribly

complicated or large.

 

I realize this is a very vague question. I am just trying to get an idea of

what kind of quantities people consider worthy of automated assembly.

 

Thanx,

 

Tony

 

 

 

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    autodeskguest over 17 years ago

    Tony Rolando schrieb:

     

    Your last line really provided some insight for me...

     

    image

     

    Where I work we contract out most assembly. We do somewhat  large volume on

    most products. We have planned some smaller products that will probably NOT

    sell high volumes. I am wondering (aloud I suppose) what route we will take

    for assembly of those boards.. I do not make these descisions, just

    speculate I suppose.

     

    Well, the answer is ... it still depends. image

     

    We do custom (industrial) electronics development with subsequent series

    production, sometimes we also do contract manufacturing. Production lots

    vary from 10 to >500, but not thousands. I assume this is what is

    generally called "not high volumes".

     

    For really low volumes (say, lots of 10 or 20 boards), we often use pure

    THT and manual assembly, since this is much more efficient then.

    However, as soon as you need some parts in SMT (for example, if you

    don't get them in THT packages, or if it must be small), it generally

    makes sense to do as much as possible in SMT then - combined with

    machine assembly. However, we also have two products with one single SMT

    chip on them (not available THT) and the rest in THT. This single chip

    is then assembled manually. Or, talking about single quantities

    (prototypes), we will assemble a single prototype board with (amongst

    other parts) >400 0805 resistors, several tens of ICs (many in

    fine-pitch)- of course we will use the machine for that, even if it's

    only one board. Time for setting up the machine is much less than the

    time we'd need to assemble this amount manually.

     

    You can't give a general statement without caring about (all) details.

    Chosing the optimum technology depends on very many details...

     

    Tilmann

     

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    autodeskguest over 17 years ago

    Tony Rolando schrieb:

     

    Your last line really provided some insight for me...

     

    image

     

    Where I work we contract out most assembly. We do somewhat  large volume on

    most products. We have planned some smaller products that will probably NOT

    sell high volumes. I am wondering (aloud I suppose) what route we will take

    for assembly of those boards.. I do not make these descisions, just

    speculate I suppose.

     

    Well, the answer is ... it still depends. image

     

    We do custom (industrial) electronics development with subsequent series

    production, sometimes we also do contract manufacturing. Production lots

    vary from 10 to >500, but not thousands. I assume this is what is

    generally called "not high volumes".

     

    For really low volumes (say, lots of 10 or 20 boards), we often use pure

    THT and manual assembly, since this is much more efficient then.

    However, as soon as you need some parts in SMT (for example, if you

    don't get them in THT packages, or if it must be small), it generally

    makes sense to do as much as possible in SMT then - combined with

    machine assembly. However, we also have two products with one single SMT

    chip on them (not available THT) and the rest in THT. This single chip

    is then assembled manually. Or, talking about single quantities

    (prototypes), we will assemble a single prototype board with (amongst

    other parts) >400 0805 resistors, several tens of ICs (many in

    fine-pitch)- of course we will use the machine for that, even if it's

    only one board. Time for setting up the machine is much less than the

    time we'd need to assemble this amount manually.

     

    You can't give a general statement without caring about (all) details.

    Chosing the optimum technology depends on very many details...

     

    Tilmann

     

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