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printing .brd's with 7.0.0 fails

autodeskguest
autodeskguest over 12 years ago

Just updated to the freebie eagle-7.0.0

 

I have some work last massaged by 6.5.0 about 16 months ago, but my

printouts were incomplete when I looked and compared to the old board that

self-destructed last week, mainly from being made on radio shack pcb.

Fragile crap, poor copper adhesive & sub mill copper.  Very easily

destroyed despite the fact that I have had a soldering iron in one hand and

a scope probe in the other for well over 60 years now.

 

Doing my etching on a mill running linuxcnc, I have to add some stuff to

the pcb2gcode output to facilitate the automatic location and depth of cut.

All that is in o subroutines and once working, isn't germane to

this.

 

But in order to get a complete printout to facilitate parts placement on

the new board I made yesterday, I had to redo the autoroute.  Then I went

to print a copy to take to the shop. 5 passes at printing the new boards

brd image on a color laser printer, and I have 5 notices from the printer

that no data was found.  Gping to the .sch screen, that prints just fine.

 

Anybody have a clue why I cannot print the .brd image?

 

Cheers, Gene

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    autodeskguest over 12 years ago

    Chuckle, your mother is chasing me, I'll be 80 in October.  But luck is

    still me friend, I managed to survive a pulmonary embolism at the end of

    May, so now I am on rat poison, and feeling better than I have in a

    decade.

     

    and I found 2.5 square feet of DS 2 oz board on Ebay an hour ago for USD

    12$, free postal shipping.  I should have it the middle of next week.

     

    I tend to do my own for my onsies projects, in this case a spindle encoder

    for a sows ear toy lathe, a 7x12 that was new back in the 90's sometime.

    It now has ball screws and a 1 horse motor, all controlled by LinuxCNC.  No

    handles left, LCNC does it all. At 0.001" accuracy's these days.

     

    When doing a circuit board on the mill, which also has all screws now, run

    by LCNC, I usually drill the thru holes about.045" deep, and drill from

    both sides so the holes meet in the middle of the boards thickness. I think

    I'm doing good when I can look into the hole with an old 16mm projector

    lens for a magnifier, and cannot find a step where the hole pattern was

    miss aligned.  And its not my accuracy being tested, its the mills

    accuracy.  Worst part is I have no facility to make plated thru holes,

    which makes my eagle compositions trickier.  And the traces too darned

    narrow too. And I need to find a v-bit for engraving that is even a

    narrower angle than the 60 degree bits I have the last of in the machine

    right now.  Keeping the board pallet clean so there are no high or low

    spots would also help.  So would a constant temp, my Z screw is about 16"

    between the nut and the head slider, and in that distance, a 5 degree F

    temp change is 4 thou or so at the tip of the bit.  So I load eagles

    pcb2gcode output code up with calls to an automatic Z axis re-calibration,

    inserted at about 1000 line intervals.  But even that does not help if my

    hold-down screws distort the PCB itself because it runs the machine to the

    same spot on the board. I'd be better off to machine the pallet for a

    vacuum to hold it correctly.  Not impossible of course, but the vacuum is

    just more noise I can do w/o.  But I just had another idea on the vacuum

    that would be much quieter.  I forgot I had inherited an AC service pump,

    and I know that puppy can do better than 29.5" HG.  I used it to complete

    the desiccation of a gunstock sized piece of poorly dried maple, and one of

    my 50 cal BP's is now wearing it.  Gets the ohhs and ahhs at the range to,

    twice, the second time when they look at the target. image

     

    I'd better do an Andy Capp here and Saddup.

     

    Cheers, Gene

     

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    soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."

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    autodeskguest over 12 years ago

    Chuckle, your mother is chasing me, I'll be 80 in October.  But luck is

    still me friend, I managed to survive a pulmonary embolism at the end of

    May, so now I am on rat poison, and feeling better than I have in a

    decade.

     

    and I found 2.5 square feet of DS 2 oz board on Ebay an hour ago for USD

    12$, free postal shipping.  I should have it the middle of next week.

     

    I tend to do my own for my onsies projects, in this case a spindle encoder

    for a sows ear toy lathe, a 7x12 that was new back in the 90's sometime.

    It now has ball screws and a 1 horse motor, all controlled by LinuxCNC.  No

    handles left, LCNC does it all. At 0.001" accuracy's these days.

     

    When doing a circuit board on the mill, which also has all screws now, run

    by LCNC, I usually drill the thru holes about.045" deep, and drill from

    both sides so the holes meet in the middle of the boards thickness. I think

    I'm doing good when I can look into the hole with an old 16mm projector

    lens for a magnifier, and cannot find a step where the hole pattern was

    miss aligned.  And its not my accuracy being tested, its the mills

    accuracy.  Worst part is I have no facility to make plated thru holes,

    which makes my eagle compositions trickier.  And the traces too darned

    narrow too. And I need to find a v-bit for engraving that is even a

    narrower angle than the 60 degree bits I have the last of in the machine

    right now.  Keeping the board pallet clean so there are no high or low

    spots would also help.  So would a constant temp, my Z screw is about 16"

    between the nut and the head slider, and in that distance, a 5 degree F

    temp change is 4 thou or so at the tip of the bit.  So I load eagles

    pcb2gcode output code up with calls to an automatic Z axis re-calibration,

    inserted at about 1000 line intervals.  But even that does not help if my

    hold-down screws distort the PCB itself because it runs the machine to the

    same spot on the board. I'd be better off to machine the pallet for a

    vacuum to hold it correctly.  Not impossible of course, but the vacuum is

    just more noise I can do w/o.  But I just had another idea on the vacuum

    that would be much quieter.  I forgot I had inherited an AC service pump,

    and I know that puppy can do better than 29.5" HG.  I used it to complete

    the desiccation of a gunstock sized piece of poorly dried maple, and one of

    my 50 cal BP's is now wearing it.  Gets the ohhs and ahhs at the range to,

    twice, the second time when they look at the target. image

     

    I'd better do an Andy Capp here and Saddup.

     

    Cheers, Gene

     

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    soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."

    -Ed Howdershelt (Author)

    --

    Web access to CadSoft support forums at www.eaglecentral.ca.  Where the CadSoft EAGLE community meets.

     

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    autodeskguest over 12 years ago in reply to autodeskguest

    Gene77 wrote:

    Chuckle, your mother is chasing me, I'll be 80 in October.  But luck

    is

    still me friend, I managed to survive a pulmonary embolism at the end

    of

    May, so now I am on rat poison, and feeling better than I have in a

    decade.

     

    Glad you got through that!  I know a couple people who are on the rat

    poison, one is younger than me.  I'm on beta blockers and calcium channel

    blockers myself, along with diclofenac for the arthritis...

    ("arth-a-rite-us!")

     

    and I found 2.5 square feet of DS 2 oz board on Ebay an hour ago for

    USD 12$

     

    Very nice.  eBay sure seems to have turned into a giant store instead of an

    auction house.

     

    I tend to do my own for my onsies projects, in this case a spindle

    encoder

    for a sows ear toy lathe, a 7x12 that was new back in the 90's

    sometime.

    It now has ball screws and a 1 horse motor, all controlled by LinuxCNC.

    No

    handles left, LCNC does it all. At 0.001" accuracy's these days.

     

    Fun!  A thousandth, eh?  Nice.  I used to be a machinist, worked my way up

    to general manager of the shop.  At the time, we pretty much had to

    maintain .0005" accuracy.  At some point, maybe after I retire, I plan to

    get some kind of vertical mill and play with CNC stuff again.

     

    Worst part is I have no facility to make plated thru holes, which

    makes

    my eagle compositions trickier.

     

    I've often wondered if anyone makes any kind of little grommet that could

    be put in a hole and soldered to make a via.  Some day I'll actually get

    around to looking.  Maybe you could get some kind of thin tube and cut

    rings off with your lathe?  Hmm, could probably use some kind of solid

    stock as well if it were small enough.  Might take a lot of heat to solder

    though, but you could try solder paste and a griddle or oven...

     

    Keeping the board pallet clean so there are no high or low spots would

    also help.

     

    In woodworking, we use router bits with guide bearings.  I wonder if you

    could rig up something like that to hold the pcb down...

     

    I'd better do an Andy Capp here and Saddup.

     

    My dad used to love that strip!  I always remember Andy curled up on the

    couch asking Pet for things...

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