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Mounting an SMD connector on the Bottom layer?

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autodeskguest over 16 years ago

Hi folks, newbie with EagleCAD here.

 

Trying to build a simple one-sided PCB with the components on the top

and copper on the bottom, except for a surface-mount flat ribbon cable

connector, a Molex 52207-28xx, that will have to mount on the bottom.

 

I'm having lots of difficulties trying to accomplish this:

 

1. There's a similar connector in the con-molex.lbr library, a

52745-3090.  But I can't use it directly, because the lands on the top

layer (naturally image and I can't figure out how to edit the package in

place to change them to the bottom.

 

2. Also when the connector is mounted on the bottom, the pin order is

reversed.  That has to be changed, too.

 

3. I finally bit the bullet and defined my own library with a new

package, "52207-28", device and symbol.  Copied the package from the

existing one, and now could move the lands to the bottom layer.  Defined

a new symbol with 28 pins, defined the device and connected the pins to

the lands.

 

So far, so good.

 

But now I got new problems:

 

A. I couldn't replace the existing device in the schematic with my new

one -- got an error message about not being able to map pin 1.

 

B. On the board, the new connector is half the size it should be. 

Sigh... (I'll go back and check the grid in the package definition.)

 

C. On the board, the new connector is rotated 90º from the definition. 

And I can't rotate it on the board -- I get a "You can't do that in the

EagleCAD light version".  (I've gotten that a lot of times when doing

device and package editing.)

 

Any hints on how to get around these specific problems, or in

accomplishing the general goal of flipping SMD components and mounting

them on the bottom?

 

TIA,

 

Mike Wirth

Palo Alto, CA

 

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    autodeskguest over 16 years ago

    In article <h46avd$pu2$1@cheetah.cadsoft.de>,

    Joern Paschedag <jpaschedag@t-online.de> wrote:

     

    Mike Wirth schrieb:

    Hi folks, newbie with EagleCAD here.

     

    Trying to build a simple one-sided PCB with the components on the top

    ...

     

    For A and B I think it is a library design error.

     

    For C:Try MOVE to pick the package and then use the right mousekey to

    rotate the device by 90° every click and place it again with the left key.

     

    General on a board you look at it from the top and "see through" the

    layers. so if you mirror a device to the bottom side of the pcb you

    actually see it's belly. Do that on a table with a DIL chip and put it

    on it's back and notice the different position of the pins image

     

    Joern,

     

    Thanks for the useful feedback.

     

    Yes, the "device" I was using was contained in the original version of

    the schematic that I got from someone else, and did have some errors. 

    When I tried an "official" device from the con-molex library, I could

    mirror it (although it has the wrong pin spacing image

     

    Mike

     

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    autodeskguest over 16 years ago

    In article <h46avd$pu2$1@cheetah.cadsoft.de>,

    Joern Paschedag <jpaschedag@t-online.de> wrote:

     

    Mike Wirth schrieb:

    Hi folks, newbie with EagleCAD here.

     

    Trying to build a simple one-sided PCB with the components on the top

    ...

     

    For A and B I think it is a library design error.

     

    For C:Try MOVE to pick the package and then use the right mousekey to

    rotate the device by 90° every click and place it again with the left key.

     

    General on a board you look at it from the top and "see through" the

    layers. so if you mirror a device to the bottom side of the pcb you

    actually see it's belly. Do that on a table with a DIL chip and put it

    on it's back and notice the different position of the pins image

     

    Joern,

     

    Thanks for the useful feedback.

     

    Yes, the "device" I was using was contained in the original version of

    the schematic that I got from someone else, and did have some errors. 

    When I tried an "official" device from the con-molex library, I could

    mirror it (although it has the wrong pin spacing image

     

    Mike

     

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