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PCB Layout without Schematic?

mathewjenkinson
mathewjenkinson over 10 years ago

Hi all,

 

In the past, I've drawn all my PBC's on Adobe photoshop or illustrator however I would like to start the transition over to Eagle as the designs are getting more complex.

 

Having downloaded, installed the free copy and followed the tutorials about making up an electronic schmatic and then moving it to the designer part to design the PCB.

Am I able to skip the electronic schmatic?

 

The next few sets of boards I need to produce are 5V powerboards (One 5V input and 4 * 5V outputs) all nice and simple with screw terminals for both the inputs and the outputs.

Using illustrator I can mock the board up within 10 mins but that defects the point of learning eagle image .

 

Is it a case of all boards start with a schmatic? or is there a way to skip the schmatic and draw the pins stright to a pcb board?

 

Many thanks for your answers,

Mathew

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  • autodeskguest
    autodeskguest over 10 years ago +1
    Am 20.09.2013 14:58, schrieb Mathew Jenkinson: Is it a case of all boards start with a schmatic? or is there a way to skip the schmatic and draw the pins stright to a pcb board? IN PRINCIPLE, you can just…
  • dougw
    dougw over 6 years ago in reply to sarahhyy +1 suggested
    It is a pretty manual process - the tool tells you what is different between schematic and PCB and you have to make appropriate changes to the schematic to make them match up. It sort of tells you what…
  • autodeskguest
    0 autodeskguest over 10 years ago

    Am 20.09.2013 14:58, schrieb Mathew Jenkinson:

    Is it a case of all boards start with a schmatic? or is there a way to

    skip the schmatic and draw the pins stright to a pcb board?

     

    IN PRINCIPLE, you can just create a board WITHOUT schematic (menu File -

    New - Board) and add your elements there, no problem.

     

    BUT if your designs get more complex, and debugging a board without a

    schematic is REALLY awful, you should consider creating a decent

    schematic for ALL your projects. Plus nobody will understand your

    circuit without schematics documentation, anyway, and documentation is

    more or less an absolute MUST everywhere. Even for very small circuits

    with only ten components or so, we create a schematic: It makes the

    function clear for everybody, and finding problems is SO much easier...

     

    Andreas Weidner

     

     

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  • autodeskguest
    0 autodeskguest over 10 years ago in reply to autodeskguest

    On 20/09/13 16:29, Andreas Weidner wrote:

    Even for very small circuits with only ten components or so, we create a

    schematic:

     

    Ten? TEN? I create a schematic if I have THREE components!

     

    Yes you can just draw what you think, off the top of your head at

    random, the board ought to look like. But if you do then you are doing

    art, not PCB design.

     

    The PCB is an implementation of a circuit, not the essence of the

    circuit. If you don't have a schematic you don't know what the essence

    of the circuit is. Besides, the extra time needed to draw a schematic of

    five screw terminal blocks connected together, compared to placing the

    same blocks on a PCB unaided, is less than a minute.

     

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  • artemen
    0 artemen over 6 years ago

    Its very usefull, when you have a bunch of portel, orcad and altium files. for some reason, .PCB files are imported perfectly, while schematics are messed up.  it would be nice if we could be able to recreate those schematics.

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    0 sarahhyy over 6 years ago in reply to artemen

    Second this!

     

    Is there any way to generate a schematic from a board in Eagle?

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    0 dougw over 6 years ago in reply to sarahhyy

    It is a pretty manual process - the tool tells you what is different between schematic and PCB and you have to make appropriate changes to the schematic to make them match up. It sort of tells you what to do, but you have to manually do it....Once the tool is happy that the schematic matches the PCB, forward and backward annotation start to work seamlessly.

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  • sarahhyy
    0 sarahhyy over 6 years ago in reply to dougw

    Thanks!

     

    Went through that manual process... All the ERC checks O_O but now it works.

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    0 dougw over 6 years ago in reply to sarahhyy

    Well done

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