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Does the library editor tool lock a file while editing it?

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Former Member over 11 years ago

I am working in a git controlled evnvironment with several other engineers. Currently we each have a local copy of our libraries that are sync'd through git. The problem of merging libraries files after a Git pull is becoming excessive.

 

We'd like to store all files in a folder on an NFS server accessable by all users. The libraries would still be version controlled by git, with a periodic commits. When an engineer is editing a library, the file is read only to all other users. the other users can view but not concurrently edit the file.

 

does the eagle library editor tool lock open files?

 

If not, is it possible to easily integrate this feature? without any other version controll or check-out software.

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    0 autodeskguest over 11 years ago

    Jesse Banks wrote on Tue, 13 May 2014 15:05

    I am working in a git controlled evnvironment with several other

    engineers. Currently we each have a local copy of our libraries that

    are

    sync'd through git. The problem of merging libraries files after a Git

    pull is becoming excessive.

     

    We'd like to store all files in a folder on an NFS server accessable

    by

    all users. The libraries would still be version controlled by git,

    with

    a periodic commits. When an engineer is editing a library, the file is

    read only to all other users. the other users can view but not

    concurrently edit the file.

     

    does the eagle library editor tool lock open files?

     

    If not, is it possible to easily integrate this feature? without any

    other version control or check-out software.

     

     

    Hello Jesse,

     

    Don't worry about all the haters, you're doing the right thing using

    serious revision control for your libraries.  I have worked at a lot of

    companies and library mismanagement is the number one reason boards come

    back not working.  I have over 1500 unique devices in my library and it's

    been in SVN control since the beginning (over a decade now).

     

    I would however recommend that you don't use an NFS mount but force

    everyone to use revision control client to check out latest version to

    their machine.  I think that is cleaner and you can then update your local

    copy of the library at a time suitable for your project (which might not be

    suitable for another).

     

    The short answer is don't expect EAGLE to change it's behaviour.  And I'm

    not sure I want it to.

     

    Use your revision control client to get the effect you would like.  I

    haven't used git but if SVN clients can be configured to auto-lock certain

    files then certainly git should be able to do it.  If I lock the file using

    SVN then no one else can get a lock on it.  And the file is read-only on

    the file system until SVN gets a lock.  I think that is the effect you are

    after.

     

    That would be my advise.  Another reason for wanting a full update report

    so you can see what has changed in the library under your feet -- that

    would help you out greatly in your situation (see thread from a few days

    ago on that topic).

     

    Cheers,

     

    James.

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    0 Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to autodeskguest

    I exist in a Git + NFS environment and need to find a solution in this space. The rev control problem is the origional problem: merging XML files. Our current tools are not capable of identifing file changes correctly, and it takes a ton of man hours to resolve.

     

    if two users have added parts to the same library (think resistors, caps, inductors) the merge tool sees the new entries in contension. each user has appended the xml list in the library and the merge tool thinks they are in conflict, instead of seperate new entries. maybe a merge tool change is in order.

     

    Our current motion: give a single "cad" user modify rights to the libraries, and all users eagle "directories" are pointed at the nfs shared library directories with read only access. Each user can make library changes by logging into a shared vnc session. then it is obvious when libraries are being modified. the pit fall of this: only one user may change libraries at a time. Bonus: all users have most recent changes instantly. I'm not totally convinced of this plan.

     

    We could probably just keep file revision control using git if the xml merge tool were more powerful. Any sugestions?

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    0 AnalogNotes over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Jesse Banks wrote:

    I exist in a Git + NFS environment and need to find a solution in this space. The rev control problem is the origional problem: merging XML files. Our current tools are not capable of identifing file changes correctly, and it takes a ton of man hours to resolve.

     

    if two users have added parts to the same library (think resistors, caps, inductors) the merge tool sees the new entries in contension. each user has appended the xml list in the library and the merge tool thinks they are in conflict, instead of seperate new entries. maybe a merge tool change is in order.

     

    It's too bad that Cadsoft switched to the XML file format.  Sigh.  Oh well, we're here now.  I started to write some XML tools to work with EAGLE files, but then I gave up and just started using a couple export ULPs to create script files that are easier to deal with under revision control.  At some point, I'll go back and see what I can do with the XML...

     

    We could probably just keep file revision control using git if the xml merge tool were more powerful. Any sugestions?

     

    Check out:

    Project: Merge - Professional Two/Three-Way XML Compare and Merge

    The "3DM" XML 3-way Merging and Differencing Tool

    https://versioncomparer.codeplex.com/

     

    There are some academic papers online about different diff and merge algorithms for XML, if you're having trouble sleeping.

     

    Another option might be to invest in one of the dedicated library management tools that can export EAGLE libraries...

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    0 AnalogNotes over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Jesse Banks wrote:

    I exist in a Git + NFS environment and need to find a solution in this space. The rev control problem is the origional problem: merging XML files. Our current tools are not capable of identifing file changes correctly, and it takes a ton of man hours to resolve.

     

    if two users have added parts to the same library (think resistors, caps, inductors) the merge tool sees the new entries in contension. each user has appended the xml list in the library and the merge tool thinks they are in conflict, instead of seperate new entries. maybe a merge tool change is in order.

     

    It's too bad that Cadsoft switched to the XML file format.  Sigh.  Oh well, we're here now.  I started to write some XML tools to work with EAGLE files, but then I gave up and just started using a couple export ULPs to create script files that are easier to deal with under revision control.  At some point, I'll go back and see what I can do with the XML...

     

    We could probably just keep file revision control using git if the xml merge tool were more powerful. Any sugestions?

     

    Check out:

    Project: Merge - Professional Two/Three-Way XML Compare and Merge

    The "3DM" XML 3-way Merging and Differencing Tool

    https://versioncomparer.codeplex.com/

     

    There are some academic papers online about different diff and merge algorithms for XML, if you're having trouble sleeping.

     

    Another option might be to invest in one of the dedicated library management tools that can export EAGLE libraries...

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