element14 Community
element14 Community
    Register Log In
  • Site
  • Search
  • Log In Register
  • About Us
  • Community Hub
    Community Hub
    • What's New on element14
    • Feedback and Support
    • Benefits of Membership
    • Personal Blogs
    • Members Area
    • Achievement Levels
  • Learn
    Learn
    • Ask an Expert
    • eBooks
    • element14 presents
    • Learning Center
    • Tech Spotlight
    • STEM Academy
    • Webinars, Training and Events
    • Learning Groups
  • Technologies
    Technologies
    • 3D Printing
    • FPGA
    • Industrial Automation
    • Internet of Things
    • Power & Energy
    • Sensors
    • Technology Groups
  • Challenges & Projects
    Challenges & Projects
    • Design Challenges
    • element14 presents Projects
    • Project14
    • Arduino Projects
    • Raspberry Pi Projects
    • Project Groups
  • Products
    Products
    • Arduino
    • Avnet Boards Community
    • Dev Tools
    • Manufacturers
    • Multicomp Pro
    • Product Groups
    • Raspberry Pi
    • RoadTests & Reviews
  • Store
    Store
    • Visit Your Store
    • Choose another store...
      • Europe
      •  Austria (German)
      •  Belgium (Dutch, French)
      •  Bulgaria (Bulgarian)
      •  Czech Republic (Czech)
      •  Denmark (Danish)
      •  Estonia (Estonian)
      •  Finland (Finnish)
      •  France (French)
      •  Germany (German)
      •  Hungary (Hungarian)
      •  Ireland
      •  Israel
      •  Italy (Italian)
      •  Latvia (Latvian)
      •  
      •  Lithuania (Lithuanian)
      •  Netherlands (Dutch)
      •  Norway (Norwegian)
      •  Poland (Polish)
      •  Portugal (Portuguese)
      •  Romania (Romanian)
      •  Russia (Russian)
      •  Slovakia (Slovak)
      •  Slovenia (Slovenian)
      •  Spain (Spanish)
      •  Sweden (Swedish)
      •  Switzerland(German, French)
      •  Turkey (Turkish)
      •  United Kingdom
      • Asia Pacific
      •  Australia
      •  China
      •  Hong Kong
      •  India
      •  Korea (Korean)
      •  Malaysia
      •  New Zealand
      •  Philippines
      •  Singapore
      •  Taiwan
      •  Thailand (Thai)
      • Americas
      •  Brazil (Portuguese)
      •  Canada
      •  Mexico (Spanish)
      •  United States
      Can't find the country/region you're looking for? Visit our export site or find a local distributor.
  • Translate
  • Profile
  • Settings
Autodesk EAGLE
  • Products
  • More
Autodesk EAGLE
EAGLE User Support (English) stupid question:  What's the difference between mil and mm?
  • Blog
  • Forum
  • Documents
  • Events
  • Polls
  • Files
  • Members
  • Mentions
  • Sub-Groups
  • Tags
  • More
  • Cancel
  • New
Join Autodesk EAGLE to participate - click to join for free!
Actions
  • Share
  • More
  • Cancel
Forum Thread Details
  • Replies 4 replies
  • Subscribers 173 subscribers
  • Views 2577 views
  • Users 0 members are here
Related

stupid question:  What's the difference between mil and mm?

Former Member
Former Member over 15 years ago

 

  • Sign in to reply
  • Cancel
Parents
  • autodeskguest
    autodeskguest over 15 years ago

    dingebre wrote on Sat, 15 May 2010 14:06

    Hi James,

     

    Coming from an education in mechanical engineering and physics, the

    terms "mil" and "thou" are completely unambigous and equivalent. That

    said, I think in the world of PCB layout, "mil", "thou", and "mm" do get

    confusing, especially to one with little or no machining background or

    mechancial engineering studies.

     

    Form my experience, "thou" is more arcane and "mil" is more commonly

    used. Either works.

     

     

    Maybe there is a cultural thing here too.  First, I am not a mechanical

    engineer so I don't have any background in using this term in that context.

    Second, I grew up in Canada as the first generation that only learned

    metric and not imperial units.  Thirdly I grew up on a farm so we weren't

    often concerned with things that were so small--if you couldn't fix it with

    a hammer, some binder twine, and a role of duct tape it wouldn't last very

    long image

     

    In any case, I have heard mil used as a short form for both "millimeter"

    and "mm" within about 15 minutes in a high end PCB design class by an

    American (who has been educated in imperial units)!  This person is very

    well known and well respected in the PCB design world.

     

    The reason I like "thou" is because it is arcane and no one uses it any

    more for anything.  So I can define that in my organisation as 1/1000 of an

    inch.  I realise it could be confusing but for us it is not.  I have yet to

    hear a better alternative that isn't confusing.  I'm open to it though

    since I like unambiguous.

     

    Quote:

    A curse on whoever set up English units! image

     

     

    Agreed.  I suspect most of those units were devised in the late evening

    inside English pubs.

    --

    James Morrison  ~~~  Stratford Digital

     

    email:  james@eaglecentral.ca

    web: http://www.eaglecentral.ca

     

    Specializing in CadSoft EAGLE

    • Online Sales to North America

    • Electronic Design Services

    • EAGLE Enterprise Toolkit

    --

    Web access to CadSoft support forums at www.eaglecentral.ca.  Where the CadSoft EAGLE community meets.

     

    • Cancel
    • Vote Up 0 Vote Down
    • Sign in to reply
    • Cancel
Reply
  • autodeskguest
    autodeskguest over 15 years ago

    dingebre wrote on Sat, 15 May 2010 14:06

    Hi James,

     

    Coming from an education in mechanical engineering and physics, the

    terms "mil" and "thou" are completely unambigous and equivalent. That

    said, I think in the world of PCB layout, "mil", "thou", and "mm" do get

    confusing, especially to one with little or no machining background or

    mechancial engineering studies.

     

    Form my experience, "thou" is more arcane and "mil" is more commonly

    used. Either works.

     

     

    Maybe there is a cultural thing here too.  First, I am not a mechanical

    engineer so I don't have any background in using this term in that context.

    Second, I grew up in Canada as the first generation that only learned

    metric and not imperial units.  Thirdly I grew up on a farm so we weren't

    often concerned with things that were so small--if you couldn't fix it with

    a hammer, some binder twine, and a role of duct tape it wouldn't last very

    long image

     

    In any case, I have heard mil used as a short form for both "millimeter"

    and "mm" within about 15 minutes in a high end PCB design class by an

    American (who has been educated in imperial units)!  This person is very

    well known and well respected in the PCB design world.

     

    The reason I like "thou" is because it is arcane and no one uses it any

    more for anything.  So I can define that in my organisation as 1/1000 of an

    inch.  I realise it could be confusing but for us it is not.  I have yet to

    hear a better alternative that isn't confusing.  I'm open to it though

    since I like unambiguous.

     

    Quote:

    A curse on whoever set up English units! image

     

     

    Agreed.  I suspect most of those units were devised in the late evening

    inside English pubs.

    --

    James Morrison  ~~~  Stratford Digital

     

    email:  james@eaglecentral.ca

    web: http://www.eaglecentral.ca

     

    Specializing in CadSoft EAGLE

    • Online Sales to North America

    • Electronic Design Services

    • EAGLE Enterprise Toolkit

    --

    Web access to CadSoft support forums at www.eaglecentral.ca.  Where the CadSoft EAGLE community meets.

     

    • Cancel
    • Vote Up 0 Vote Down
    • Sign in to reply
    • Cancel
Children
No Data
element14 Community

element14 is the first online community specifically for engineers. Connect with your peers and get expert answers to your questions.

  • Members
  • Learn
  • Technologies
  • Challenges & Projects
  • Products
  • Store
  • About Us
  • Feedback & Support
  • FAQs
  • Terms of Use
  • Privacy Policy
  • Legal and Copyright Notices
  • Sitemap
  • Cookies

An Avnet Company © 2025 Premier Farnell Limited. All Rights Reserved.

Premier Farnell Ltd, registered in England and Wales (no 00876412), registered office: Farnell House, Forge Lane, Leeds LS12 2NE.

ICP 备案号 10220084.

Follow element14

  • X
  • Facebook
  • linkedin
  • YouTube