So close: Need help with Stop Mask errors !

"Jack Edin" <eagle@logicunlimited.com> wrote in message

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Hello gang,

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Thanks in advance for your excellent help!

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I am soooo close to submitting my first PCB to BatchPCB, and am in a hurry

to get them back & built...

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Following a tutorial on how to make my Gerber files, I found a DRU file

for

SparkFun/BatchPCB which I loaded. Now I have fixed all my errors except

the

78 that remain - Stop Mask errors.

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They're on layers 29 & 30, so I turned the rest (except 20) off and

captured an image.

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Look here:

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http://www.logicunlimited.com/EaglePCB/v3_7-StopMaskErrors(78).jpg

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I see the marked areas, but I don't know if there is a reason to be

concerned, or if I can simply ignore them all...

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Can anybody please advise?

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Do you need a better image (more layers showing, etc) in order to help??

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Thanks, and happy Independence Day!

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Sincerely,

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Jack

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When I get these errors it is usually the silkscreen overlapping the stop

mask. If this is the case, I usually ignore them.

Isn't  Independence Day a old movie about aliens?

regards

Correct!

Actually the silkscreen >Names & >Values caused this, and they were near

by, not overlapping.

I fixed them all, except 9...

These are effected by the item's own footprint!

The device is a 2-row header, at 90-degrees.

Part Package is: 2X03/90.

The Device is:   PINHD-2X3/90 (PINHD-2x3).

The Library is:  PINHEAD.

The trouble is on Layers tDOCU (3 of 'em) & tPLACE (6 of 'em).

I believe I can ignore all except the tDOCU 3 as they actually cover the

pads!

I had a similar issue with my vertically mounted Diodes. To fix them I

edited the offending portion manually into a separate library, deleted them

from the schematic, then added 'em back in. This turned out to cause alot

of pain because the wires were deleted off the board in the process. I not

only had to reposition the footprints, but redraw the routes too!!

No way I want this to happen again!

Can I hope/assume that when I make my Gerbers the tDOCU layer can be

ignored??

Thanks, again...

Jack

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"Jack Edin" <eagle@logicunlimited.com> wrote in message

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Correct!

>

Actually the silkscreen >Names & >Values caused this, and they were near

by, not overlapping.

>

I fixed them all, except 9...

>

These are effected by the item's own footprint!

>

The device is a 2-row header, at 90-degrees.

>

Part Package is: 2X03/90.

The Device is:   PINHD-2X3/90 (PINHD-2x3).

The Library is:  PINHEAD.

>

The trouble is on Layers tDOCU (3 of 'em) & tPLACE (6 of 'em).

>

I believe I can ignore all except the tDOCU 3 as they actually cover the

pads!

>

I had a similar issue with my vertically mounted Diodes. To fix them I

edited the offending portion manually into a separate library, deleted

them

from the schematic, then added 'em back in. This turned out to cause alot

of pain because the wires were deleted off the board in the process. I not

only had to reposition the footprints, but redraw the routes too!!

>

No way I want this to happen again!

>

Can I hope/assume that when I make my Gerbers the tDOCU layer can be

ignored??

>

Thanks, again...

>

Jack

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Yes, you would not normally include tDOCU in your gerbers.

Also, the size of the stop masks vary depending on setting in your DRC, so

if you change DRC you may get your errors back. I would turn tDOCU off

before you do a DRC.

New issue!

I just uploaded my Gerber files to BatchPCB, and that right angle HD Header is causing a new problem, and expense...

Because the part is shown hanging off the board, they are counting the silk screen layer's image of the header's pins as part of the board. And charging for them!

So the board which is really 1" x 3" and should cost $7.50 (3 sq in times $2.50/sq in) is now $8.11 because it is 3.24 sq in.

What a be-atch!!

The header must protrude it's male pins to connect externallly for programming.

I just thought that as they are outside the board's outline, they would not be counted and that BatchPCB would chop 'em off!

Hmmm....

The outline was included in the Top Copper layer. I have the option of making a seperate outline layer. Anybody think it would help?

Help!

Thanks.

Sincerely,

Jack

Jack Edin:

Because the part is shown hanging off the board, they are counting the silk screen layer's image of the header's pins as part of the board. And charging for them!

Never heard of anythig similar.

The outline was included in the Top Copper layer.

Uh?

On 7/4/2010 11:33 PM, Jack Edin wrote:

New issue!

>

I just uploaded my Gerber files to BatchPCB, and that right angle HD Header is causing a new problem, and expense...

>

Because the part is shown hanging off the board, they are counting the silk screen layer's image of the header's pins as part of the board. And charging for them!

>

So the board which is really 1" x 3" and should cost $7.50 (3 sq in times $2.50/sq in) is now $8.11 because it is 3.24 sq in.

>

What a be-atch!!

>

The header must protrude it's male pins to connect externallly for programming.

>

I just thought that as they are outside the board's outline, they would not be counted and that BatchPCB would chop 'em off!

>

Hmmm....

>

The outline was included in the Top Copper layer. I have the option of making a seperate outline layer. Anybody think it would help?

>

Help!

>

Thanks.

>

Sincerely,

>

Jack

>

Hi Jack,

What you should do is find out what layer the drawing of the header is

on. If it's on one of the gerber layers then change it so that the

drawing of the header isn't outputted with the Gebers.

That way the batchPCB bot won't even see the header, just the pads at

which point your board outline will dominate and you will be charged the

appropriate amount of $7.50.

hth,

Jorge Garcia

Cadsoft Computer