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BGA IC board design

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Former Member over 15 years ago

Hi, could someone please provide me a board design sample with a BGA IC so I

can check how it is done? I´ve never designed a board with suck package, and

I have some doubts about it.

 

Regards,

 

 

 

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    Former Member over 14 years ago in reply to Former Member +1
    warrenbrayshaw wrote on Tue, 28 September 2010 17:48 "Thiago" wrote Thanks, it is a nice ideia... but I am having a hard time placing vias between the ball pads... my BGA has 0.8mm pitch and 0.3mm balls…
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    Former Member over 15 years ago

    "Thiago" <thiago_hr@yahoo.com.br> wrote:

    Hi, could someone please provide me a board design sample with a BGA

    IC so I

    can check how it is done? I´ve never designed a board with suck

    package, and

    I have some doubts about it.

     

    http://www.xilinx.com/support/documentation/application_notes/xapp489.pdf

     

    Here are some examples. The cheapest way is to put normal vias between

    each ball. The more expensive is microvias IN the pads. Some

    manufacturers can fill outer layers with copper so that 'normal' vias

    can be put ON the balls.

    There is nothing to worry about as long as you use a manufacturer that

    can do the density that it requires. Ive done it a lot with Eagle.

     

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    Former Member over 14 years ago in reply to Former Member

    In article <1440662276307224458.579862mleikvol-

    yahoo.nospam@news.cadsoft.de>, mleikvol@yahoo.nospam says...

     

    "Thiago" <thiago_hr@yahoo.com.br> wrote:

    Hi, could someone please provide me a board design sample with a BGA

    IC so I

    can check how it is done? I?ve never designed a board with suck

    package, and

    I have some doubts about it.

     

    http://www.xilinx.com/support/documentation/application_notes/xapp489.pdf

     

    Here are some examples. The cheapest way is to put normal vias between

    each ball. The more expensive is microvias IN the pads. Some

    manufacturers can fill outer layers with copper so that 'normal' vias

    can be put ON the balls.

    There is nothing to worry about as long as you use a manufacturer that

    can do the density that it requires. Ive done it a lot with Eagle.

     

    Thanks, it is a nice ideia... but I am having a hard time placing vias

    between the ball pads... my BGA has 0.8mm pitch and 0.3mm balls

    diameter. My PCB manufacturer requires 0.2mm Drill... but the via still

    has a ring too big to fit between the pads...

     

     

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    "Thiago" wrote

    Thanks, it is a nice ideia... but I am having a hard time placing vias

    between the ball pads... my BGA has 0.8mm pitch and 0.3mm balls

    diameter. My PCB manufacturer requires 0.2mm Drill... but the via still

    has a ring too big to fit between the pads...

    >

     

    The manufacturer will specify the minimum drill diameter for the via and the

    min width of the copper around the hole.

    You change the width of the copper around a via drill hole using the

    "restring" setting in the DCR. (DRC/Restring)

     

    Now you have vias in clear space between the balls you then need to ensure

    you have a "clearance" to the balls that is greater than the minimum

    distance requirements set in the DRC/Clearance for 'different' signals

     

    HTH

    Warren

     

     

     

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    Former Member over 14 years ago in reply to Former Member

     

    "Thiago" wrote

    Thanks, it is a nice ideia... but I am having a hard time placing vias

    between the ball pads... my BGA has 0.8mm pitch and 0.3mm balls

    diameter. My PCB manufacturer requires 0.2mm Drill... but the via still

    has a ring too big to fit between the pads...

    >

     

    The manufacturer will specify the minimum drill diameter for the via and the

    min width of the copper around the hole.

    You change the width of the copper around a via drill hole using the

    "restring" setting in the DCR. (DRC/Restring)

     

    Now you have vias in clear space between the balls you then need to ensure

    you have a "clearance" to the balls that is greater than the minimum

    distance requirements set in the DRC/Clearance for 'different' signals

     

    HTH

    Warren

     

     

     

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    Former Member over 14 years ago in reply to Former Member

    warrenbrayshaw wrote on Tue, 28 September 2010 17:48

    "Thiago" wrote

    Thanks, it is a nice ideia... but I am having a hard time placing

    vias

    between the ball pads... my BGA has 0.8mm pitch and 0.3mm balls

    diameter. My PCB manufacturer requires 0.2mm Drill... but the via

    still

    has a ring too big to fit between the pads...

    >

     

    The manufacturer will specify the minimum drill diameter for the via

    and the

    min width of the copper around the hole.

    You change the width of the copper around a via drill hole using the

    "restring" setting in the DCR. (DRC/Restring)

     

    Now you have vias in clear space between the balls you then need to

    ensure

    you have a "clearance" to the balls that is greater than the minimum

    distance requirements set in the DRC/Clearance for 'different' signals

     

     

    You can certainly get EAGLE to handle BGA's--I have 4 of them on the board

    I'm currently working on.

     

    Here's what I do to start with BGA's.  Once you have the infrastructure

    right the rest is much easier:

     

    1)  Add BGA device to the schematic (added to the PCB automatically)

    2)  Go to PCB and set grid to be 1/2 of the ball grid pitch (so 0.4mm for

    0.8mm-pitch BGA).

    3)  Move the BGA package but hold down the CTRL key (CMD in MAC) so that it

    snaps to the current grid.  Doing this now means that when you place the

    vias they will be exactly at the center of the space which gives you the

    most margin.

    4)  Now add a few vias of the size you intend.  Run the DRC.  If there are

    errors either change the via size or the Via rest-ring setting in the DRC.

    Iterate until you don't have any DRC errors.  Doing this smartly will give

    you the loosest manufacturing requirements to meet your design needs.

    5)  Now route a trace of the minimum width you are allowed with your

    manufacturing process to make sure it won't give you a DRC error when

    routed through the grid array.

     

    If you get that far then you have the settings that you'll need to use.

    When routing out of the BGA always change to that grid to place the via and

    it will be perfect every time.  EAGLE 5's "grid last" command is handy for

    this.

     

    Also, if you ever have to move that section of the circuit make sure you

    move it by a multiple of the BGA grid so the vias stay on grid.  If it ever

    gets off it's way harder to deal with--trust me, I know.

     

    Hope that helps.  With this approach I have successfully laid out many,

    many boards that have BGA's on them.

     

    James.

     

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