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EAGLE GUI (4): Better menus

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Former Member over 14 years ago

My last posts promised a solution to the current 'bad menus' problem of

EAGLE. See the attached picture 'menutypes.png' for three possible

implementations of the schematics editor's German EDIT menu (minus the

icons and the shortcuts, which SHOULD appear, but which I didn't care to

recreate):

 

  1. In the middle, the simplest solution: Just show structured,

     grouped descriptions, nothing else. This is VERY nice for new

     users, but does NOT provide ongoing experts with any information

     about the names of underlying commands.

  2. At the right, the same solution, but with additional FULL command

     names. Here, the menus seem a bit long, and the English version

     would show strange word duplications (e.g. 'Rotate ' or

     'Swap gates '). COULD be done, but sort of suboptimal.

  3. At the left, my favourite: Same as above, but with the SHORTEST

     possible command syntax for each command. Here, new users get

     their NICE descriptions, and ongoing experts get their syntax.

     Even in English, this shouldn't look too weird (e.g.,

     'Rotate ' or 'Swap gates ').

 

Using this left menu type, some schematic editor menus might look like

attached in 'schmenu.png'. Some items I do not REALLY like (e.g., the

item 'CAM processor' is not slef-explaining), and all of that is

debatable a million times, but at least the CONCEPT should be clear:

  - Descriptive texts not showing ONLY cryptic commands

  - Grouped items to help users choose

Whatever positioning and grouping can be thought of, the possibility is

VERY high that it will NOT be worse than EAGLE's current menu...

 

Andreas Weidner

 

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    Former Member over 14 years ago

    On 11/19/2011 2:03 PM, Andreas Weidner wrote:

    My last posts promised a solution to the current 'bad menus' problem of

    EAGLE. See the attached picture 'menutypes.png' for three possible

    implementations of the schematics editor's German EDIT menu (minus the

    icons and the shortcuts, which SHOULD appear, but which I didn't care to

    recreate):

     

    1. In the middle, the simplest solution: Just show structured,

    grouped descriptions, nothing else. This is VERY nice for new

    users, but does NOT provide ongoing experts with any information

    about the names of underlying commands.

    2. At the right, the same solution, but with additional FULL command

    names. Here, the menus seem a bit long, and the English version

    would show strange word duplications (e.g. 'Rotate ' or

    'Swap gates '). COULD be done, but sort of suboptimal.

    3. At the left, my favourite: Same as above, but with the SHORTEST

    possible command syntax for each command. Here, new users get

    their NICE descriptions, and ongoing experts get their syntax.

    Even in English, this shouldn't look too weird (e.g.,

    'Rotate ' or 'Swap gates ').

     

    Using this left menu type, some schematic editor menus might look like

    attached in 'schmenu.png'. Some items I do not REALLY like (e.g., the

    item 'CAM processor' is not slef-explaining), and all of that is

    debatable a million times, but at least the CONCEPT should be clear:

    - Descriptive texts not showing ONLY cryptic commands

    - Grouped items to help users choose

    Whatever positioning and grouping can be thought of, the possibility is

    VERY high that it will NOT be worse than EAGLE's current menu...

     

    Andreas Weidner

     

    Good Job Andreas,

     

    I'm not an EAGLE developer, but this is what I would like to see in a

    suggestion, a proposed SOLUTION instead of a rant.

     

    I can't speak german(at all) but I get the gist of what your suggesting.

    I'm sure you're suggestions haven't fallen on deaf ears.

     

    Keep up the good suggestions.

     

    Best Regards,

     

    Jorge Garcia

    Cadsoft Support

     

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