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V6: COPY command

e14 Contributor
e14 Contributor over 14 years ago

 

Hello,

 

from manual V6:

 

"The COPY command in EAGLE traditionally only copied objects by clicking

on them with the mouse and placing them within the same drawing. It also

copied library objects between libraries. However, before version 6 it

did not copy the current group selection to the system's clipboard, like

other Windows programs do. In EAGLE, the CUT command was used for this.

Unfortunately, this has irritated Windows users time and again, so

beginning with version 6, the COPY command also copies the selected

group of objects to the system's clipboard, while still retaining the

full functionality of previous versions. If you don't like this, you can

use the SET command"

 

 

I think somebody should tell Cadsoft how the windows (and linux)

clipboard works image

 

COPY: just copy the object to clipboard

CUT: copy to clipboard and delete

PASTE: paste from clipboard

 

Even if the help says they followed the hints from "irritated Windows

users" the behavior is still wrong, in my point of view.

 

Currently, I see this:

 

- copy a object (left click) -> duplicate it without copy to clipboard

- copy a group (right click) -> duplicate it and copy to clipboard

- cut -> copy to clipboard

- paste -> paste from clipboard

 

I cannot understand why the cut command performs a copy command.

I cannot understand why a copy command performs sometimes a copy+paste

sometimes a duplicate command.

 

In any case this isn't the expected behavior neither in windows nor

linux environment.

 

I ask to Cadsoft to explain me what is the reason behind these rules.

I'm trying to understand what you have in mind.

 

Thanks

Marco

 

 

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    e14 Contributor over 14 years ago

    Am 10.01.2012 17:25, schrieb Marco Trapanese:

    I ask to Cadsoft to explain me what is the reason behind these rules.

     

    The reason behind this is that EAGLE is just OLDER than Windows and

    Linux: When the whole thing started, there were neither well-defined

    user interfaces available nor any system-wide clipboard, so CadSoft

    invented things themselves and called the commands just somehow.

     

    In the meantime, the world around CadSoft has evolved quite a lot, but,

    due to compatibility issues, EAGLE's command syntax has NOT. Only in

    version 6 CadSoft has changed the behaviour of the COPY command A LITTLE

    BIT to support the system's clipboard. That's much better than NOT

    supporting it, of course, but now the behaviour is not logical anymore.

    Previously, it was logical, but didn't support the system clipboard.

    Now, it has that support, but is NOT logical. Oh, well...

     

    It's the same issue as with moving across sheets: EAGLE can move GROUPS

    across sheets, but not SINGLE objects. Whyever. VERY illogical. I try to

    make the CadSoft guys a bit more sensitive to user issues with my posts

    'EAGLE GUI' in the forum 'eagle.suggest.eng', and illogical command

    behaviour is a point I will mention in a future post. Whatever comes out

    of it.

     

    Andreas Weidner

     

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    e14 Contributor over 14 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    Il 10/01/2012 19:01, Andreas Weidner ha scritto:

     

    The reason behind this is that EAGLE is just OLDER than Windows and

    Linux: When the whole thing started, there were neither well-defined

    user interfaces available nor any system-wide clipboard, so CadSoft

    invented things themselves and called the commands just somehow.

     

     

    Ok, this is reasonable.

     

     

    In the meantime, the world around CadSoft has evolved quite a lot, but,

    due to compatibility issues, EAGLE's command syntax has NOT.

     

     

    I'm not an expert software developer and I don't want to teach anything.

    But I bet that change a label from "CUT" to "COPY" (the actual behavior)

    it's not a compatibility issue.

     

     

    Only in

    version 6 CadSoft has changed the behaviour of the COPY command A LITTLE

    BIT to support the system's clipboard. That's much better than NOT

    supporting it, of course, but now the behaviour is not logical anymore.

    Previously, it was logical, but didn't support the system clipboard.

    Now, it has that support, but is NOT logical. Oh, well...

     

     

    Yeah, you described the situation very well...

     

     

    It's the same issue as with moving across sheets: EAGLE can move GROUPS

    across sheets, but not SINGLE objects. Whyever. VERY illogical.

     

     

    EAGLE have plenty of this illogical limitations.

    It's a good software but with few and easy changes could become a great

    software.

     

     

    I try to

    make the CadSoft guys a bit more sensitive to user issues with my posts

    'EAGLE GUI' in the forum 'eagle.suggest.eng', and illogical command

    behaviour is a point I will mention in a future post. Whatever comes out

    of it.

     

     

    I thank you for this.

    Marco

     

     

     

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    e14 Contributor over 14 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    Il 10/01/2012 19:01, Andreas Weidner ha scritto:

     

    The reason behind this is that EAGLE is just OLDER than Windows and

    Linux: When the whole thing started, there were neither well-defined

    user interfaces available nor any system-wide clipboard, so CadSoft

    invented things themselves and called the commands just somehow.

     

     

    Ok, this is reasonable.

     

     

    In the meantime, the world around CadSoft has evolved quite a lot, but,

    due to compatibility issues, EAGLE's command syntax has NOT.

     

     

    I'm not an expert software developer and I don't want to teach anything.

    But I bet that change a label from "CUT" to "COPY" (the actual behavior)

    it's not a compatibility issue.

     

     

    Only in

    version 6 CadSoft has changed the behaviour of the COPY command A LITTLE

    BIT to support the system's clipboard. That's much better than NOT

    supporting it, of course, but now the behaviour is not logical anymore.

    Previously, it was logical, but didn't support the system clipboard.

    Now, it has that support, but is NOT logical. Oh, well...

     

     

    Yeah, you described the situation very well...

     

     

    It's the same issue as with moving across sheets: EAGLE can move GROUPS

    across sheets, but not SINGLE objects. Whyever. VERY illogical.

     

     

    EAGLE have plenty of this illogical limitations.

    It's a good software but with few and easy changes could become a great

    software.

     

     

    I try to

    make the CadSoft guys a bit more sensitive to user issues with my posts

    'EAGLE GUI' in the forum 'eagle.suggest.eng', and illogical command

    behaviour is a point I will mention in a future post. Whatever comes out

    of it.

     

     

    I thank you for this.

    Marco

     

     

     

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