Hello,
In version 4.16r2 I opened a schematic I was working on and discovered
that one part "kicked itself over the fence". All by itself. Waaaay out
there, 10 miles behind the Klondike. When I try to move or even erase it
I get an error message saying it's out of range. I cannot just leave it
there because it'll mess up my netlist.
How do I fix this?
--
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com/
Joern Paschedag wrote:
Am 17.10.2012 20:21, schrieb Joerg:
>> Joern Paschedag wrote:
>>> Am 16.10.2012 19:10, schrieb Joerg:
>>>> Richard Hammerl wrote:
>>>>> On 16.10.2012 08:12, Joern Paschedag wrote:
>>>>>> Am 16.10.2012 01:27, schrieb Joerg:
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In version 4.16r2 I opened a schematic I was working on and
>>>>>>> discovered
>>>>>>> that one part "kicked itself over the fence". All by itself. Waaaay
>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>> there, 10 miles behind the Klondike. When I try to move or even
>>>>>>> erase it
>>>>>>> I get an error message saying it's out of range. I cannot just
>>>>>>> leave it
>>>>>>> there because it'll mess up my netlist.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How do I fix this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Joerg,
>>>>>> the only thing I know of is: Group/Cut/Paste within the limits into a
>>>>>> new design (.brd and .sch), then check for consistency and add the
>>>>>> missing (outside) part again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you can't solve it this way, please send the file to
>>>>> CadSoft Support. We will check this.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just FYI, Joern's method worked. Thanks, Joern.
>>>>
>>> Had the same problem a couple of times. Dunno why??
>>> Also sometimes I encounter unconnected netz which I cannot detect 
>>>
>>
>> I had a case this year that almost blew a design out of the water. Two
>> nets that weren't supposed to became connected in the netlist. Luckily I
>> always perform a 100% hand check of the netlist before I hand it to the
>> layouter. It can cost 3-4h on large projects but that's well worth the
>> time. I do this since I started my career about 25 years ago, regardless
>> of the CAD system.
>>
>> When copying stuff one has to be very, very careful with Eagle.
>>
>> Hand checks always entice smirks when people see that because I use
>> crayons or color-pencils for that. Yes, my good old Hardtmuth Studio
>> "Buntstifte" from when I was in elementary school back in the 60's. Some
>> of them still have useful length left and the orange pencil might even
>> survive me some day. I got those in my "Schultuete" when entering 1st
>> grade, in a leather pouch.
>>
Those "Ko I Nors" are still alive??
Mine are long gone.
No idea what "Ko I Nors" is but I still have a lot of stuff from when I
was a kid. For example, I have a small ruler under my lab bench for when
I need to measure metric and such rulers are a bit hard to find here. It
has an imprint "Mach mit beim Schulsparen". That's from back in the
60's, I used it in elementary school. In my office bookshelf I've got a
book from my late father-in-law, "Neuzeitlicher Maschinenbau", for when
I need to look up engineering things outside of my turf. Somewhere in
there it says that RF is something mysterious and not yet researched.
--
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com/
Am 17.10.2012 20:21, schrieb Joerg:
Joern Paschedag wrote:
>> Am 16.10.2012 19:10, schrieb Joerg:
>>> Richard Hammerl wrote:
>>>> On 16.10.2012 08:12, Joern Paschedag wrote:
>>>>> Am 16.10.2012 01:27, schrieb Joerg:
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In version 4.16r2 I opened a schematic I was working on and discovered
>>>>>> that one part "kicked itself over the fence". All by itself. Waaaay
>>>>>> out
>>>>>> there, 10 miles behind the Klondike. When I try to move or even
>>>>>> erase it
>>>>>> I get an error message saying it's out of range. I cannot just
>>>>>> leave it
>>>>>> there because it'll mess up my netlist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do I fix this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Joerg,
>>>>> the only thing I know of is: Group/Cut/Paste within the limits into a
>>>>> new design (.brd and .sch), then check for consistency and add the
>>>>> missing (outside) part again.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you can't solve it this way, please send the file to
>>>> CadSoft Support. We will check this.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Just FYI, Joern's method worked. Thanks, Joern.
>>>
>> Had the same problem a couple of times. Dunno why??
>> Also sometimes I encounter unconnected netz which I cannot detect 
>>
>
I had a case this year that almost blew a design out of the water. Two
nets that weren't supposed to became connected in the netlist. Luckily I
always perform a 100% hand check of the netlist before I hand it to the
layouter. It can cost 3-4h on large projects but that's well worth the
time. I do this since I started my career about 25 years ago, regardless
of the CAD system.
When copying stuff one has to be very, very careful with Eagle.
Hand checks always entice smirks when people see that because I use
crayons or color-pencils for that. Yes, my good old Hardtmuth Studio
"Buntstifte" from when I was in elementary school back in the 60's. Some
of them still have useful length left and the orange pencil might even
survive me some day. I got those in my "Schultuete" when entering 1st
grade, in a leather pouch.
Those "Ko I Nors" are still alive?? 
Mine are long gone.
--
Mit freundlichen Grüßen / With best regards
Joern Paschedag
Joern Paschedag wrote:
Am 16.10.2012 19:10, schrieb Joerg:
>> Richard Hammerl wrote:
>>> On 16.10.2012 08:12, Joern Paschedag wrote:
>>>> Am 16.10.2012 01:27, schrieb Joerg:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> In version 4.16r2 I opened a schematic I was working on and discovered
>>>>> that one part "kicked itself over the fence". All by itself. Waaaay
>>>>> out
>>>>> there, 10 miles behind the Klondike. When I try to move or even
>>>>> erase it
>>>>> I get an error message saying it's out of range. I cannot just
>>>>> leave it
>>>>> there because it'll mess up my netlist.
>>>>>
>>>>> How do I fix this?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Joerg,
>>>> the only thing I know of is: Group/Cut/Paste within the limits into a
>>>> new design (.brd and .sch), then check for consistency and add the
>>>> missing (outside) part again.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you can't solve it this way, please send the file to
>>> CadSoft Support. We will check this.
>>>
>>
>> Just FYI, Joern's method worked. Thanks, Joern.
>>
Had the same problem a couple of times. Dunno why??
Also sometimes I encounter unconnected netz which I cannot detect
I had a case this year that almost blew a design out of the water. Two
nets that weren't supposed to became connected in the netlist. Luckily I
always perform a 100% hand check of the netlist before I hand it to the
layouter. It can cost 3-4h on large projects but that's well worth the
time. I do this since I started my career about 25 years ago, regardless
of the CAD system.
When copying stuff one has to be very, very careful with Eagle.
Hand checks always entice smirks when people see that because I use
crayons or color-pencils for that. Yes, my good old Hardtmuth Studio
"Buntstifte" from when I was in elementary school back in the 60's. Some
of them still have useful length left and the orange pencil might even
survive me some day. I got those in my "Schultuete" when entering 1st
grade, in a leather pouch.
--
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com/
Am 16.10.2012 19:10, schrieb Joerg:
Richard Hammerl wrote:
>> On 16.10.2012 08:12, Joern Paschedag wrote:
>>> Am 16.10.2012 01:27, schrieb Joerg:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> In version 4.16r2 I opened a schematic I was working on and discovered
>>>> that one part "kicked itself over the fence". All by itself. Waaaay out
>>>> there, 10 miles behind the Klondike. When I try to move or even erase it
>>>> I get an error message saying it's out of range. I cannot just leave it
>>>> there because it'll mess up my netlist.
>>>>
>>>> How do I fix this?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Joerg,
>>> the only thing I know of is: Group/Cut/Paste within the limits into a
>>> new design (.brd and .sch), then check for consistency and add the
>>> missing (outside) part again.
>>>
>>
>> If you can't solve it this way, please send the file to
>> CadSoft Support. We will check this.
>>
>
Just FYI, Joern's method worked. Thanks, Joern.
Had the same problem a couple of times. Dunno why??
Also sometimes I encounter unconnected netz which I cannot detect 
--
Mit freundlichen Grüßen / With best regards
Joern Paschedag
Richard Hammerl wrote:
On 16.10.2012 08:12, Joern Paschedag wrote:
>> Am 16.10.2012 01:27, schrieb Joerg:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> In version 4.16r2 I opened a schematic I was working on and discovered
>>> that one part "kicked itself over the fence". All by itself. Waaaay out
>>> there, 10 miles behind the Klondike. When I try to move or even erase it
>>> I get an error message saying it's out of range. I cannot just leave it
>>> there because it'll mess up my netlist.
>>>
>>> How do I fix this?
>>>
>>
>> Hi Joerg,
>> the only thing I know of is: Group/Cut/Paste within the limits into a
>> new design (.brd and .sch), then check for consistency and add the
>> missing (outside) part again.
>>
I was almost afraid it would boil down to this 
If you can't solve it this way, please send the file to
CadSoft Support. We will check this.
Thank you for the offer but on this one I really can't, it's highly
confidential. I am just wondering how it can happen that the software is
able to error in a way that flings parts into outer space but then it
doesn't let you go there to fetch it.
--
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com/
