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v6.4 Allows Delete of Footprint with No E lectrical Connection

e14 Contributor
e14 Contributor over 13 years ago

Hello,

 

I have a non-plated mounting hole device in my library.  This has no

electrical connections but includes holes, keepout regions, silk screen,

and other features.

 

EAGLE V6.4 (haven't tested in older V6 versions) allows me to delete the

footprint in the PCB editor.  I know this wasn't allowed in V5.  Not sure

why it is now.  The device isn't deleted from the schematic so now I have a

schematic with this device (named MH1) but the PCB doesn't have these

device. 

 

But worse, the ERC doesn't report this as an error!

 

Consistency at a minimum, in my mind, means that the netlist and BOM are

equivalent.  But in this case the BOM is not the same.  2 things should be

fixed:

 

1)  Deleting a footprint associated with a device should not be allowed to

be deleted in the PCB, even if there is no electrical connections.

 

2)  The ERC should catch this as an error.

 

Cheers,

 

James.

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    e14 Contributor over 13 years ago

    James Morrison wrote on Tue, 15 January 2013 13:16

    Hello,

     

    I have a non-plated mounting hole device in my library.  This has no

    electrical connections but includes holes, keepout regions, silk screen,

    and other features.

     

    EAGLE V6.4 (haven't tested in older V6 versions) allows me to delete

    the footprint in the PCB editor.  I know this wasn't allowed in V5.  Not

    sure why it is now.  The device isn't deleted from the schematic so now I

    have a schematic with this device (named MH1) but the PCB doesn't have

    these device. 

     

    But worse, the ERC doesn't report this as an error!

     

    Consistency at a minimum, in my mind, means that the netlist and BOM

    are equivalent.  But in this case the BOM is not the same.  2 things

    should be fixed:

     

    1)  Deleting a footprint associated with a device should not be allowed

    to be deleted in the PCB, even if there is no electrical connections.

     

    2)  The ERC should catch this as an error.

     

     

    OK, I take that all back.  What happens is that the device is deleted in

    the schematic when I delete it in the PCB.  I wasn't expecting that to

    happen and it's a nice surprise.

     

    It appears that it is now allowed to delete devices in the PCB if there is

    no electrical connections.  It still won't allowed deleting a footprint

    that has an electrical connection.

     

    So it is behaving OK.  I'm not sure if this was in V6 previously or not but

    it's OK by me.

     

    James.

    --

    James Morrison  ~~~  Stratford Digital

     

    Specializing in CadSoft EAGLE

    • Online Sales to North America

    • Electronic Design Services

    • EAGLE Enterprise Toolkit

    --

    Web access to CadSoft support forums at www.eaglecentral.ca.  Where the CadSoft EAGLE community meets.

     

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    e14 Contributor over 13 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

     

    "James Morrison" <james@eaglecentral.ca> a écrit dans le message de news:

    kd46od$8en$1@cheetah.cadsoft.de...

    James Morrison wrote on Tue, 15 January 2013 13:16

    >> Hello,

    >>

    >> I have a non-plated mounting hole device in my library.  This has no

    >> electrical connections but includes holes, keepout regions, silk screen,

    >> and other features.

    >>

    >> EAGLE V6.4 (haven't tested in older V6 versions) allows me to delete

    >> the footprint in the PCB editor.  I know this wasn't allowed in V5.  Not

    >> sure why it is now.  The device isn't deleted from the schematic so now I

    >> have a schematic with this device (named MH1) but the PCB doesn't have

    >> these device.

    >>

    >> But worse, the ERC doesn't report this as an error!

    >>

    >> Consistency at a minimum, in my mind, means that the netlist and BOM

    >> are equivalent.  But in this case the BOM is not the same.  2 things

    >> should be fixed:

    >>

    >> 1)  Deleting a footprint associated with a device should not be allowed

    >> to be deleted in the PCB, even if there is no electrical connections.

    >>

    >> 2)  The ERC should catch this as an error.

    >

    OK, I take that all back.  What happens is that the device is deleted in

    the schematic when I delete it in the PCB.  I wasn't expecting that to

    happen and it's a nice surprise.

     

    It appears that it is now allowed to delete devices in the PCB if there is

    no electrical connections.  It still won't allowed deleting a footprint

    that has an electrical connection.

     

    So it is behaving OK.  I'm not sure if this was in V6 previously or not but

    it's OK by me.

     

    It's not OK for me!

    I found this new feature extremely dangerous!!!

    I think there should be an option or at least a warning

    before to delete definitely the component from the brd.

    Christian Bohrer

     

     

     

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    e14 Contributor over 13 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

     

    "James Morrison" <james@eaglecentral.ca> a écrit dans le message de news:

    kd46od$8en$1@cheetah.cadsoft.de...

    James Morrison wrote on Tue, 15 January 2013 13:16

    >> Hello,

    >>

    >> I have a non-plated mounting hole device in my library.  This has no

    >> electrical connections but includes holes, keepout regions, silk screen,

    >> and other features.

    >>

    >> EAGLE V6.4 (haven't tested in older V6 versions) allows me to delete

    >> the footprint in the PCB editor.  I know this wasn't allowed in V5.  Not

    >> sure why it is now.  The device isn't deleted from the schematic so now I

    >> have a schematic with this device (named MH1) but the PCB doesn't have

    >> these device.

    >>

    >> But worse, the ERC doesn't report this as an error!

    >>

    >> Consistency at a minimum, in my mind, means that the netlist and BOM

    >> are equivalent.  But in this case the BOM is not the same.  2 things

    >> should be fixed:

    >>

    >> 1)  Deleting a footprint associated with a device should not be allowed

    >> to be deleted in the PCB, even if there is no electrical connections.

    >>

    >> 2)  The ERC should catch this as an error.

    >

    OK, I take that all back.  What happens is that the device is deleted in

    the schematic when I delete it in the PCB.  I wasn't expecting that to

    happen and it's a nice surprise.

     

    It appears that it is now allowed to delete devices in the PCB if there is

    no electrical connections.  It still won't allowed deleting a footprint

    that has an electrical connection.

     

    So it is behaving OK.  I'm not sure if this was in V6 previously or not but

    it's OK by me.

     

    It's not OK for me!

    I found this new feature extremely dangerous!!!

    I think there should be an option or at least a warning

    before to delete definitely the component from the brd.

    Christian Bohrer

     

     

     

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