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New eagle licensing -> goodbye Eagle

SpacedCowboy
SpacedCowboy over 12 years ago

So, I've used Eagle now for over 10 years. In all that time I've always upgraded to the latest version, but that's just stopped.

 

I have multiple computers, and I use multiple locations. I've always only ever used one instance of Eagle at a time, and I've never given the license details to anyone else. Unfortunately, the latest way in which Eagle is licensed is way too restrictive for me to work with the product as I have done for over a decade now.

 

The problem is two-fold:

  • You are only allowed to install on 2 (which is pitiful!) computers if you have a single user license.
  • You cannot use a flexlm-based license for a single-user license.

 

The combination of those two things means I can't duplicate the setup I currently have, so this is the classic example of how proprietary software owners can screw you over without you having any recompense or workaround, despite you being a paying and loyal customer for an extended period of time. I don't consider cracking the software to be an adequate workaround.

 

So, if I'm going to have to spend $$$ in the thousands, I'll take a good look at the competition first, and even at the freebies like kikad. Eagle has major shortcomings anyway - no "bus routing" and the differential pair support is poor at best. I think, with this decision, cadsoft couldn't have done more to help along the freebies, and lose the people who might some day splash the cash and go for the pro option.

 

A primary rule for any software "upgrade" is "don't break the existing workflows". Eagle v7 is completely useless to me, not because of its feature-set, not because of any price issues, but because the management is being pants-on-head moronic about how it goes about licensing. Licensing, of all things.

 

Very disappointed.

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    rbtx99 over 10 years ago

    The licencing is the main reason I didn't upgrade past V5. I do fancy some of the new features and I was considering upgrading but not if I have to loose the flexibility of running EAGLE at work, home and laptop. Whilst Cadsoft may have prevented some licencing fraud in my case they lost both the V6 and V7 upgrades.

     

    I like EAGLE and I will continue to use my v5 version as long as I can; then move to something else. KiCad perhaps. The good news is that the v5 runs on Windows 10 so I am not pressed to change and I can continue to maintain the old projects.

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    autodeskguest over 10 years ago in reply to rbtx99

    On 13/09/15 19:35, Angelos Gonias wrote:

    The licencing is the main reason I didn't upgrade past V5.

     

    Catch up at the back there!

     

    This is an entirely obsolete issue. The current (main) V7 license works

    the same way as the V5 one did. Yes, there are new options that you

    probably don't want, but you don't have to have them.

     

     

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    rbtx99 over 10 years ago in reply to autodeskguest

    CadSoft Guest wrote:

    This is an entirely obsolete issue. The current (main) V7 license works

    the same way as the V5 one did. Yes, there are new options that you

    probably don't want, but you don't have to have them.

     

    Well that is good news and tempting to do an update. But what do you mean about the options?

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    rbtx99 over 10 years ago in reply to autodeskguest

    CadSoft Guest wrote:

    This is an entirely obsolete issue. The current (main) V7 license works

    the same way as the V5 one did. Yes, there are new options that you

    probably don't want, but you don't have to have them.

     

    Well that is good news and tempting to do an update. But what do you mean about the options?

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    autodeskguest over 10 years ago in reply to autodeskguest

    V7 introduced some extra license types, now called "Make Pro" and "Make

    Personal", that require Internet connections and such. Just ignore them.

    The "standard" and "professional" licenses are the same as they always were.

     

    Make Personal, is the Hobbyist renamed it doesn't require an internet

    connection. The only real new thing is Make Pro, which has an area

    limitation instead of the fixed dimensions we used to have. That's the

    only real new thing.

     

    Basically with Make Pro as long as your board is less than approx 24 sq

    inches you'll be OK, you have flexible limits.

     

    Everything else is just a rose by a different name.

     

    hth,

    Jorge Garcia

     

     

     

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    autodeskguest over 10 years ago in reply to rbtx99

    On 14/09/15 09:22, rbtx99 wrote:

    CadSoft Guest wrote:

     

    This is an entirely obsolete issue. The current (main) V7 license

    works

     

    the same way as the V5 one did. Yes, there are new options that you

     

    probably don't want, but you don't have to have them.

     

    Well that is good news and tempting to do an update. But what do you

    mean about the options?

     

    V7 introduced some extra license types, now called "Make Pro" and "Make

    Personal", that require Internet connections and such. Just ignore them.

    The "standard" and "professional" licenses are the same as they always were.

     

     

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