New eagle licensing -> goodbye Eagle

Hi Pascal,

Just try contacting me directly support@cadsoftusa.com or

jorge@cadsoftusa.com. Make sure to include your serial number so that I

can forward the information to you.

Let me know if there's anything else I can do for you.

hth,

Jorge Garcia

Hello!

I have a problem right now. I was in version 7.3 (Mac). I have installed 7.4 which fortunately

installed without erasing 7.3. I have used the same license file (I always copy the license key

in the application folder, therefore it was in EAGLE-7.3.0) to the new 7.4 folder. As I keep my

license numbers and passwords in a text file also in the Eagle folder, I'm pretty sure it's the

same password as last time.

Result: it simply doesn't work.

I have tried to contact sales@cadsoftusa.com and it came back with an error.

Any hint about how to get a new password (if possible a working one)?

Thanks

On 9/15/2015 12:20 PM, Kenneth Edwards wrote:

I've read the first and last pages and so I understand the issue to be

resolved with this particular product, but I had an idea that I just

wanted to put out there.

 

"You are only allowed to install on 2 (which is pitiful!) computers if

you have a single user license."

Hi Kenneth,

I hope you're doing well. Again, this is obsolete information. We

removed that licensing mechanism one month after the release of V7 and

reverted back to our old system which allows users to install on as many

machines as they have.

These types of concerns are precisely why(thankfully) management made

the decision to back off on this licensing mechanism(I'm sure the

horrendous blow to sales helped a bit too ).

This entire thread is obsolete because we removed that very offensive

licensing scheme.

This is how things stand now 09/15/2015:

1. You may install EAGLE on as many machines as you own. As long as no

more than the number of licensed users are using EAGLE at any point in

time you are complying with the license.

Ex. If you have a 3 user license, you can install EAGLE on an infinite

number of machines as long as no more than 3 people are using EAGLE at

the same time everything is cool.

2. Licenses are assigned to a location. So for example if you have 3

offices around the world. Each one needs to have it's own license, this

enables the person responsible for the license at each location to

monitor the use of the licenses locally.

3. All of the updates within a major version are free.

Ex. We are now in V7. You will receive 7.1, 7.2, 7.3, 7.4, etc. for no

additional cost. You use the same key file and installation code to

license each update.

4. Upgrades are not compulsory, users determine if they wish to upgrade

or not.

Ex. Once V8 is released, you have the option to continue using V7

without paying another cent. Keep in mind that development of a major

series stops once a new major version comes out so you will not receive

any new bugfixes or corrections(Unless it's something exceptional). The

other choice is to upgrade to V8 for an upgrade fee. The upgrade fee is

roughly 1/3 of your original purchase price.

hth,

Jorge Garcia

Cadsoft Support

I've read the first and last pages and so I understand the issue to be resolved with this particular product, but I had an idea that I just wanted to put out there.

"You are only allowed to install on 2 (which is pitiful!) computers if you have a single user license."

What about the possibility of installing to a virtual machine? If that is allowed at all, then that could solve the problem since you'd be able to put the virtual machine file on a external drive or keep it in the cloud and boot it to any host machine you happen to have available.

Of course it's not an ideal solution since the virtual machine is always a fraction of the power of the bare metal machine. Technically it would only be installed to the one virtual machine which would only exist when it is booted. Another workaround is to use one of many programs that allows you to control a computer remotely. Of course that requires a network connection.

Someday the notion of having a single machine will be erased as home computers become made up of arrays of single board computers setup like a supercomputer. Rather than upgrade to a faster desktop, increasing compute power will be accomplished by adding boards to the array. Boards that go bad will simply be removed from the array.

When a person buys a product they expect to pay one time. When they buy a service or a subscription, that's different. If two people share three cars, they end up paying for six insurance policies, one per person per car. They don't expect to do the same with software.

It's not the same and should not be billed the same. Software is not insurance. If it was, then it should be regulated like insurance is regulated. Think about that.

V7 introduced some extra license types, now called "Make Pro" and "Make

Personal", that require Internet connections and such. Just ignore them.

The "standard" and "professional" licenses are the same as they always were.

Make Personal, is the Hobbyist renamed it doesn't require an internet

connection. The only real new thing is Make Pro, which has an area

limitation instead of the fixed dimensions we used to have. That's the

only real new thing.

Basically with Make Pro as long as your board is less than approx 24 sq

inches you'll be OK, you have flexible limits.

Everything else is just a rose by a different name.

hth,

Jorge Garcia

On 14/09/15 09:22, rbtx99 wrote:

CadSoft Guest wrote:

 

This is an entirely obsolete issue. The current (main) V7 license

works

 

the same way as the V5 one did. Yes, there are new options that you

 

probably don't want, but you don't have to have them.

 

Well that is good news and tempting to do an update. But what do you

mean about the options?

 

V7 introduced some extra license types, now called "Make Pro" and "Make

Personal", that require Internet connections and such. Just ignore them.

The "standard" and "professional" licenses are the same as they always were.

CadSoft Guest wrote:

This is an entirely obsolete issue. The current (main) V7 license works

the same way as the V5 one did. Yes, there are new options that you

probably don't want, but you don't have to have them.

Well that is good news and tempting to do an update. But what do you mean about the options?

On 13/09/15 19:35, Angelos Gonias wrote:

The licencing is the main reason I didn't upgrade past V5.

Catch up at the back there!

This is an entirely obsolete issue. The current (main) V7 license works

the same way as the V5 one did. Yes, there are new options that you

probably don't want, but you don't have to have them.

The licencing is the main reason I didn't upgrade past V5. I do fancy some of the new features and I was considering upgrading but not if I have to loose the flexibility of running EAGLE at work, home and laptop. Whilst Cadsoft may have prevented some licencing fraud in my case they lost both the V6 and V7 upgrades.

I like EAGLE and I will continue to use my v5 version as long as I can; then move to something else. KiCad perhaps. The good news is that the v5 runs on Windows 10 so I am not pressed to change and I can continue to maintain the old projects.

Hi,

Dave Comer a écrit:

 

I'd like to thank Jorge and his excellent attitude in helping me get my license updated.

I would like to thank Jorge too, he also help me to convert my license 7.0 in to 7.1 He is really helpful, and not only for license problem. So

Thank you Jorge, and thank you Cadsoft for their attention to customer complains or suggestions.

Guillaume Barrey.