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Single-user license proposal

autodeskguest
autodeskguest over 11 years ago

Cadsoft, you are making a mistake with the new version 7 license structure.

License security is a tradeoff between loosing revenue to dirtbags who are

willing to steal, versus making it too much of a hassle to the honest

customers so that they buy less of your product or abandon your product

altogether and go to a competitor.  Your ver 7 license structure is too far

towards the latter, which will ultimately decrease your revenue.  Here is a

proposal that strikes a much better balance, and is therefore better for

both you and your customers.

 

Allow a single-user license to be run on all machines used by the single

person the software is licensed to.  However, you do more tracking than

before.  To purchase a single-user license, the customer must supply the

complete name of the user the license is for, and the name and company

details when applicable.  The user must "sign" a statement that only he

personally will use the software.  This would not be a lengthy license

agreement that is easily forgotten or so long that nobody reads it.  You

can still have one of those if you wish.  This would be a separate screen

or something that says this concisely in plain language in sentence or

two.

 

The software itself is still node-locked, using the unique ID of the

processor or the like.  However, the customer can go to your web site at

any time to generate a password for a particular machine.  He has to

provide a key he was given with purchase so that you know who the customer

is.  As part of the license generation process, the customer provides a

brief explanation of how this machine will be used, like "main work

computer", "my home computer", "my laptop", etc, where it is located, who

owns it, etc.  If a machine is replaced, this is noted, like "replaces home

machine, which is no longer in use".  The web site will always give you a

new node-locked license, but the user will know that you know how many

machines he is running the license on.

 

This will not prevent fraud, but does make it less likely because you still

know every computer the software is running on.  Vandals and thieves don't

like people knowing what they are doing.

 

At worst you are going to get a group of people buying one license and

getting several copies by claiming they are on different machines used by

the same person.  However, actually think about what that really costs you.

These are going to be cheap hobbyists that probably wouldn't use Eagle at

all otherwise.  If they couldn't steal cheap licenses from you, they'd put

up with freeware instead, or use a cracked copy.  These people wouldn't be

real paying customers anyway, so you are losing very little.  However, even

this is still to your advantage because they are additional Eagle users out

there that may cause others to use it, and maybe some day will be in a

position to recommend ECAD software in a real commercial setting.

 

We have 3 ver 5 licenses here.  The one I use is installed on three

separate machines, one here at work, one at home, and a laptop.  These are

all "my" machines and I only ever run Eagle on one of them at a time.  Of

course you have to trust me on that, but in return I'll keep upgrading my

license when new features I care about come out, and I'll keep recommending

Eagle to my customers.  I know of at least 3 separate companies that have

bought Eagle because of my recommendation.  I don't know how many more

companies have bought Eagle as a result of people from those companies

recommending it to others, but that could very well have happened a few

times. 

 

Making things difficult for people like me is really not smart.  I'm

certainly not going to whole-heartedly recommend Eagle anymore as it stands

now.  I don't want to get my customers trapped into software with

excessively restrictive licensing because that will make me look bad when

they have the inevitable problems that causes.  Also, I'm not so sure about

the future of Eagle anymore.  This seems like the beginning of the end, and

I don't want to get my customers into something that is going to be a dead

end.  Again, being penny-wise and pound-foolish like this is really not

smart.

 

I'm not going to run away soon, but I am going to start paying more

attention to alternatives.  Previously I was a happy Eagle user and didn't

waste time seeing what else was out there.  You have now changed that.  You

have already damaged the realtionship and broken the feeling of mutual

trust.  If you fix the version 7 license mess, it will take time for us to

get over the feeling of betrayal, but the situation is still recoverable.

However, the longer this continues the more you will alienate your

customers, which will eventually be irreversible.

 

 

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Web access to CadSoft support forums at www.eaglecentral.ca.  Where the CadSoft EAGLE community meets.

 

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    autodeskguest over 11 years ago

    Hello Olin,

     

    ....

    > The software itself is still node-locked, using the unique ID of the

    processor or the like.  However, the customer can go to your web site at

    any time to generate a password for a particular machine.  He has to

    provide a key he was given with purchase so that you know who the customer

    is.  As part of the license generation process, the customer provides a

    brief explanation of how this machine will be used, like "main work

    computer", "my home computer", "my laptop", etc, where it is located, who

    owns it, etc.  If a machine is replaced, this is noted, like "replaces home

    machine, which is no longer in use".  The web site will always give you a

    new node-locked license, but the user will know that you know how many

    machines he is running the license on.

     

    This password-system would be acceptable for me.

     

    .....

     

      These are going to be cheap hobbyists that probably wouldn't use Eagle at

    all otherwise.  If they couldn't steal cheap licenses from you, they'd put

    up with freeware instead, or use a cracked copy.  These people wouldn't be

    real paying customers anyway, so you are losing very little.

     

    I am afraid this is true ...

     

    We have 3 ver 5 licenses here.  The one I use is installed on three

    separate machines, one here at work, one at home, and a laptop.  These are

    all "my" machines and I only ever run Eagle on one of them at a time.  Of

    course you have to trust me on that, but in return I'll keep upgrading my

    license when new features I care about come out, and I'll keep recommending

    Eagle to my customers.  I know of at least 3 separate companies that have

    bought Eagle because of my recommendation.  I don't know how many more

    companies have bought Eagle as a result of people from those companies

    recommending it to others, but that could very well have happened a few

    times.

     

    Exactly. Recomendation and maybe some real presentation is the best

    advertising at all !

     

    Best regards

    --

    Grzegorz Zalot

     

    complex ltd.

    office tel/fax : +48 32 2505840

    mobil : +48 501 301515

     

    http://www.complex.org.pl/

     

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    autodeskguest over 11 years ago

    Hello Olin,

     

    ....

    > The software itself is still node-locked, using the unique ID of the

    processor or the like.  However, the customer can go to your web site at

    any time to generate a password for a particular machine.  He has to

    provide a key he was given with purchase so that you know who the customer

    is.  As part of the license generation process, the customer provides a

    brief explanation of how this machine will be used, like "main work

    computer", "my home computer", "my laptop", etc, where it is located, who

    owns it, etc.  If a machine is replaced, this is noted, like "replaces home

    machine, which is no longer in use".  The web site will always give you a

    new node-locked license, but the user will know that you know how many

    machines he is running the license on.

     

    This password-system would be acceptable for me.

     

    .....

     

      These are going to be cheap hobbyists that probably wouldn't use Eagle at

    all otherwise.  If they couldn't steal cheap licenses from you, they'd put

    up with freeware instead, or use a cracked copy.  These people wouldn't be

    real paying customers anyway, so you are losing very little.

     

    I am afraid this is true ...

     

    We have 3 ver 5 licenses here.  The one I use is installed on three

    separate machines, one here at work, one at home, and a laptop.  These are

    all "my" machines and I only ever run Eagle on one of them at a time.  Of

    course you have to trust me on that, but in return I'll keep upgrading my

    license when new features I care about come out, and I'll keep recommending

    Eagle to my customers.  I know of at least 3 separate companies that have

    bought Eagle because of my recommendation.  I don't know how many more

    companies have bought Eagle as a result of people from those companies

    recommending it to others, but that could very well have happened a few

    times.

     

    Exactly. Recomendation and maybe some real presentation is the best

    advertising at all !

     

    Best regards

    --

    Grzegorz Zalot

     

    complex ltd.

    office tel/fax : +48 32 2505840

    mobil : +48 501 301515

     

    http://www.complex.org.pl/

     

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