element14 Community
element14 Community
    Register Log In
  • Site
  • Search
  • Log In Register
  • Community Hub
    Community Hub
    • What's New on element14
    • Feedback and Support
    • Benefits of Membership
    • Personal Blogs
    • Members Area
    • Achievement Levels
  • Learn
    Learn
    • Ask an Expert
    • eBooks
    • element14 presents
    • Learning Center
    • Tech Spotlight
    • STEM Academy
    • Webinars, Training and Events
    • Learning Groups
  • Technologies
    Technologies
    • 3D Printing
    • FPGA
    • Industrial Automation
    • Internet of Things
    • Power & Energy
    • Sensors
    • Technology Groups
  • Challenges & Projects
    Challenges & Projects
    • Design Challenges
    • element14 presents Projects
    • Project14
    • Arduino Projects
    • Raspberry Pi Projects
    • Project Groups
  • Products
    Products
    • Arduino
    • Avnet & Tria Boards Community
    • Dev Tools
    • Manufacturers
    • Multicomp Pro
    • Product Groups
    • Raspberry Pi
    • RoadTests & Reviews
  • About Us
  • Store
    Store
    • Visit Your Store
    • Choose another store...
      • Europe
      •  Austria (German)
      •  Belgium (Dutch, French)
      •  Bulgaria (Bulgarian)
      •  Czech Republic (Czech)
      •  Denmark (Danish)
      •  Estonia (Estonian)
      •  Finland (Finnish)
      •  France (French)
      •  Germany (German)
      •  Hungary (Hungarian)
      •  Ireland
      •  Israel
      •  Italy (Italian)
      •  Latvia (Latvian)
      •  
      •  Lithuania (Lithuanian)
      •  Netherlands (Dutch)
      •  Norway (Norwegian)
      •  Poland (Polish)
      •  Portugal (Portuguese)
      •  Romania (Romanian)
      •  Russia (Russian)
      •  Slovakia (Slovak)
      •  Slovenia (Slovenian)
      •  Spain (Spanish)
      •  Sweden (Swedish)
      •  Switzerland(German, French)
      •  Turkey (Turkish)
      •  United Kingdom
      • Asia Pacific
      •  Australia
      •  China
      •  Hong Kong
      •  India
      • Japan
      •  Korea (Korean)
      •  Malaysia
      •  New Zealand
      •  Philippines
      •  Singapore
      •  Taiwan
      •  Thailand (Thai)
      • Vietnam
      • Americas
      •  Brazil (Portuguese)
      •  Canada
      •  Mexico (Spanish)
      •  United States
      Can't find the country/region you're looking for? Visit our export site or find a local distributor.
  • Translate
  • Profile
  • Settings
Autodesk EAGLE
  • Products
  • More
Autodesk EAGLE
EAGLE User Support (English) Details about how tPlace layer needs to be managed?
  • Blog
  • Forum
  • Documents
  • Events
  • Polls
  • Files
  • Members
  • Mentions
  • Sub-Groups
  • Tags
  • More
  • Cancel
  • New
Join Autodesk EAGLE to participate - click to join for free!
Actions
  • Share
  • More
  • Cancel
Forum Thread Details
  • State Not Answered
  • Replies 1 reply
  • Subscribers 177 subscribers
  • Views 636 views
  • Users 0 members are here
  • layers
Related

Details about how tPlace layer needs to be managed?

david_
david_ over 10 years ago

Hello.

 

Some time ago I read or heard(in a youtube video) that I can use the tPlace layer when drawing the outlines for packages and such and I don't need to avoid drawing over pads since some other layer exists that cover all pads and that this layer will not allow anything to be printed on top of it when the board is manufacturerd.

But then other sources tells me that I MUST not use tplace layer drawings that cover any part of any pad and so I have to draw any figure with two layers tPlace and tDocu so that it looks almost as a complete drawing but all lines that cover pads would be made in tDocu.

 

I am in the process of designing my very first board to be sent of China to be printed for real and I don't jet know enough about gerber file to be able to find this out.

 

Do anyone know?

Am I making a big mistake when only using tPlace and draw lines over pads?

 

Regards

  • Sign in to reply
  • Cancel
  • autodeskguest
    0 autodeskguest over 10 years ago

    On 17/10/15 12:28, David Alenhag wrote:

    Hello.

     

    Some time ago I read or heard(in a youtube video) that I can use the

    tPlace layer when drawing the outlines for packages and such and I don't

    need to avoid drawing over pads since some other layer exists that cover

    all pads and that this layer will not allow anything to be printed on

    top of it when the board is manufacturerd.

    But then other sources tells me that I MUST not use tplace layer

    drawings that cover any part of any pad and so I have to draw any figure

    with two layers tPlace and tDocu so that it looks almost as a complete

    drawing but all lines that cover pads would be made in tDocu.

     

    I am in the process of designing my very first board to be sent of China

    to be printed for real and I don't jet know enough about gerber file to

    be able to find this out.

     

    Do anyone know?

    Am I making a big mistake when only using tPlace and draw lines over

    pads?

     

     

    OK, well, it's not as clear-cut as that. In fact, the layers don't

    matter, it's what goes in the Gerber that matters, but since that's

    usually tPlace+tNames for the silk screen let's deal with those two.

     

    In principle, the tPlace and tNames will become ink, which is not

    solderable and therefore must be kept away from any pads. Certainly,

    when designing library parts, this is the rule you should follow, and

    use tDocu for the bits you want on the parts placement diagram but not

    the silk screen.

     

    In reality, when you actually use a component on a real circuit board

    design, there's a very high probability you'll want to put a via right

    slap bang on the outline, or a pad of another device under the pin one

    marker. That would cause just as much trouble as errors in the library,

    when it comes to production.

     

    Also, there's a solder mask between the copper and the ink, which is not

    solderable either (obviously; it's what it's there for). That is

    controlled by the tStop layer.

     

    So, what the majority of board fabrication houses do is to take your

    solder mask Gerber (the tStop layer) and use it as a mask for the silk

    screen Gerber also. This means that any undesirable bits of outline get

    removed.

     

    What it also means, of course, is that anything from tNames (important

    component identification text) that gets too close to a via will be

    removed. So you need to "smash" all your parts and move the identifiers

    to somewhere clear of such interference, but still associated with the part.

     

    It should also be noted that I'm talking about good quality European

    board houses here. It may be that the cheap Chinese ones don't take this

    extra care and will blithely print silk screen all over your pads if you

    don't take the trouble to do it right yourself.

     

     

    • Cancel
    • Vote Up 0 Vote Down
    • Sign in to reply
    • Verify Answer
    • Cancel
element14 Community

element14 is the first online community specifically for engineers. Connect with your peers and get expert answers to your questions.

  • Members
  • Learn
  • Technologies
  • Challenges & Projects
  • Products
  • Store
  • About Us
  • Feedback & Support
  • FAQs
  • Terms of Use
  • Privacy Policy
  • Legal and Copyright Notices
  • Sitemap
  • Cookies

An Avnet Company © 2026 Premier Farnell Limited. All Rights Reserved.

Premier Farnell Ltd, registered in England and Wales (no 00876412), registered office: Farnell House, Forge Lane, Leeds LS12 2NE.

ICP 备案号 10220084.

Follow element14

  • X
  • Facebook
  • linkedin
  • YouTube