I want to get a list ofwires and which nodes they attached to.

billhirst wrote:

I may be doing point-to-point wiring (wire wrap) on my hobby clock project.

It would really help if I had a list of each wire, with the pin numbers on

each IC where it will be fastened. It's an ambitious project, as the clock

will handle different length months, daylight saving time and leap years

using about 30 74HCT series logic gates plus drivers for the Nixie tubes.

I've looked at the program LENGTH.ULP which seems to touch on many of the

details I would like, but I'm not familiar with the programming yet.

 

I can probably figure it out a ULP in a few weeks to a month, but if anyone

has already written something close it will save me a bunch of aggrivation

and debugging. In short, what I'd like is a listing something like: WIRE

hour_bit_1-- IC1 pin3, IC5 pin9, CON2 pin 16.

 

Thanks, Bill

 

 

Have you looked at the export menu. netlist, pinlist ... should be what

you need.

When I did small prototypes I would layout a pcb and then use traces

like I would use the wire wrap runs and then use that as guide to wiring.

With that many connections considering the cost of wirewrap sockets you

may be able to do it with a bare bones PCB.

Off topic -- would be to use a micro or programmable logic in place of

discrete logic.

Paul R.

Thanks, Paul. That looks like what I need. As far as wirewrap sockets, what

I'm actually doing is soldering 30-gauge wire to conventional sockets on

perfboard.. It gives a retro-wire-wrap look without actually using the

proper sockets. And of course I could do a microprocessor, but that's not

even close to the era of Nixie tube displays. I'm trying for a 1960s look on

this project with all the circuitry visible though a lucite case.

Sure, it's going to cost more, and be lots more complicated,  than a $10

clock from Walmart. But that's's not my design goal and I'm having lots of

fun creating it. (That's the whole reason we have hobbies.)

--Bill

"Paul Romanyszyn" <pgr@arcelectronicsinc.com> wrote in message

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billhirst wrote:

I may be doing point-to-point wiring (wire wrap) on my hobby clock

project. It would really help if I had a list of each wire, with the pin

numbers on each IC where it will be fastened. It's an ambitious project,

as the clock will handle different length months, daylight saving time

and leap years using about 30 74HCT series logic gates plus drivers for

the Nixie tubes. I've looked at the program LENGTH.ULP which seems to

touch on many of the details I would like, but I'm not familiar with the

programming yet.

 

I can probably figure it out a ULP in a few weeks to a month, but if

anyone has already written something close it will save me a bunch of

aggrivation and debugging. In short, what I'd like is a listing something

like: WIRE hour_bit_1-- IC1 pin3, IC5 pin9, CON2 pin 16.

 

Thanks, Bill

Have you looked at the export menu. netlist, pinlist ... should be what

you need.

When I did small prototypes I would layout a pcb and then use traces like

I would use the wire wrap runs and then use that as guide to wiring.

 

With that many connections considering the cost of wirewrap sockets you

may be able to do it with a bare bones PCB.

 

Off topic -- would be to use a micro or programmable logic in place of

discrete logic.

 

Paul R.

 

"Paul Romanyszyn" <pgr@arcelectronicsinc.com> wrote in message

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billhirst wrote:

 

I may be doing point-to-point wiring (wire wrap) on my hobby clock

project. It would really help if I had a list of each wire, with the pin

numbers on each IC where it will be fastened. It's an ambitious project,

as the clock will handle different length months, daylight saving time

and leap years using about 30 74HCT series logic gates plus drivers for

the Nixie tubes. I've looked at the program LENGTH.ULP which seems to

touch on many of the details I would like, but I'm not familiar with the

programming yet.

 

I can probably figure it out a ULP in a few weeks to a month, but if

anyone has already written something close it will save me a bunch of

aggrivation and debugging. In short, what I'd like is a listing something

like: WIRE hour_bit_1-- IC1 pin3, IC5 pin9, CON2 pin 16.

 

Thanks, Bill

 

Have you looked at the export menu. netlist, pinlist ... should be what

you need.

When I did small prototypes I would layout a pcb and then use traces like

I would use the wire wrap runs and then use that as guide to wiring.

 

With that many connections considering the cost of wirewrap sockets you

may be able to do it with a bare bones PCB.

 

Off topic -- would be to use a micro or programmable logic in place of

discrete logic.

 

Paul R.

billhirst wrote:

> Thanks, Paul. That looks like what I need. As far as wirewrap

sockets, what

> I'm actually doing is soldering 30-gauge wire to conventional sockets on

> perfboard.. It gives a retro-wire-wrap look without actually using the

> proper sockets. And of course I could do a microprocessor, but that's

not

> even close to the era of Nixie tube displays. I'm trying for a 1960s

look on

> this project with all the circuitry visible though a lucite case.

>

> Sure, it's going to cost more, and be lots more complicated,  than a $10

> clock from Walmart. But that's's not my design goal and I'm having

lots of

> fun creating it. (That's the whole reason we have hobbies.)

>

> --Bill

>

Hey Bill - using 74HCT is cheating a little bit.  Depending on how far

back in the 60's you go we could be taking about DTL or even RTL, and

let's not forget the original 74xx logic.  Of course you'd need a much

bigger power supply.  Even 74LS sucks lots of juice compared to 74CHT !

-Dave