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Simple Circuit board for production by milling

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Former Member over 13 years ago

Good evening.  I am designing a very simple circuit board for a power supply filter for our vehicle electronic systems.  My intent is to use a single-side PC board and have it milled rather than using a chemical etch process.

 

The board will have two holes (#51 drill) to mount an inductor, two holes (0.196) to mount a screw-mount electrolytic capacitor and four holes (0.196) for #10 screws to secure the ring connectors to the wiring harnesses.  Finally, there is one place to mount an SMD capacitor.

 

To accomplish this, I can make the board by milling just two lines across the board and drilling the holes and for the prototype, I did just that.  But now I would like to send this out for production at a firm that does PC boards by milling and they would like an Eagle file (presumably processed into a Gerber).

 

The question will make it obvious that I am a noob with using Eagle, although I have done some circuit boards successfully.   What I have not been able to do is figure out how to do a circuit board that is the opposite of the other boards I have done; i.e. this board is nearly all copper with two "un-traces" rather than being nearly all bare board with a couple of traces.  I guess from that perspective, it will look like a ground plane with two interrupting lines.

 

I tried using the rectangular tool to create the copper areas but what layer do I assign them to and how do I show the traces that are the reverse of a standard trace?  What layer should they be assigned to?

 

Once I get past that hurdle, I know there is a UDL to prepare the file for milling operations rather than etching but I'll ask about that when I'm ready for that step.

 

 

Any help will be appreciated!

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    On Thu, 31 May 2012 03:15:49 +0000, Paul Wright wrote:

     

    Good evening.  I am designing a very simple circuit board for a power

    supply filter for our vehicle electronic systems.  My intent is to use a

    single-side PC board and have it milled rather than using a chemical

    etch process.

     

    The board will have two holes (#51 drill) to mount an inductor, two

    holes (0.196) to mount a screw-mount electrolytic capacitor and four

    holes (0.196) for #10 screws to secure the ring connectors to the wiring

    harnesses.  Finally, there is one place to mount an SMD capacitor.

     

    To accomplish this, I can make the board by milling just two lines

    across the board and drilling the holes and for the prototype, I did

    just that.  But now I would like to send this out for production at a

    firm that does PC boards by milling and they would like an Eagle file

    (presumably processed into a Gerber).

     

    The question will make it obvious that I am a noob with using Eagle,

    although I have done some circuit boards successfully.   What I have not

    been able to do is figure out how to do a circuit board that is the

    opposite of the other boards I have done; i.e. this board is nearly all

    copper with two "un-traces" rather than being nearly all bare board with

    a couple of traces.  I guess from that perspective, it will look like a

    ground plane with two interrupting lines.

     

    I tried using the rectangular tool to create the copper areas but what

    layer do I assign them to and how do I show the traces that are the

    reverse of a standard trace?  What layer should they be assigned to?

     

    Once I get past that hurdle, I know there is a UDL to prepare the file

    for milling operations rather than etching but I'll ask about that when

    I'm ready for that step.

     

     

    Any help will be appreciated!

     

    I think you need to clarify with the circuit board house just exactly

    what they need to succeed.  If they're asking for Eagle files, they may

    want exactly that -- Eagle files.  If they want Gerbers they should ask

    for Gerbers.

     

    I suspect that the UDL in question prepares an NC mill file rather than a

    Gerber -- but you should check.

     

    You should also check to see if the circuit board house needs a positive

    or negative.  Best for you would be if they need a positive: then you can

    just slap four squares onto the board (on the bottom-side copper, or top,

    your choice).

     

    Finally, if you haven't already, you really should price out a

    traditional etched board.

     

    --

    Tim Wescott

    Control system and signal processing consulting

    www.wescottdesign.com

     

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    0 Former Member over 13 years ago

    Am 31.05.2012 05:15, schrieb Paul Wright:

    Good evening.  I am designing a very simple circuit board for a power supply filter for our vehicle electronic systems.  My intent is to use a single-side PC board and have it milled rather than using a chemical etch process.

     

    The board will have two holes (#51 drill) to mount an inductor, two holes (0.196) to mount a screw-mount electrolytic capacitor and four holes (0.196) for #10 screws to secure the ring connectors to the wiring harnesses.  Finally, there is one place to mount an SMD capacitor.

     

    To accomplish this, I can make the board by milling just two lines across the board and drilling the holes and for the prototype, I did just that.  But now I would like to send this out for production at a firm that does PC boards by milling and they would like an Eagle file (presumably processed into a Gerber).

     

    The question will make it obvious that I am a noob with using Eagle, although I have done some circuit boards successfully.   What I have not been able to do is figure out how to do a circuit board that is the opposite of the other boards I have done; i.e. this board is nearly all copper with two "un-traces" rather than being nearly all bare board with a couple of traces.  I guess from that perspective, it will look like a ground plane with two interrupting lines.

     

    I tried using the rectangular tool to create the copper areas but what layer do I assign them to and how do I show the traces that are the reverse of a standard trace?  What layer should they be assigned to?

     

    Once I get past that hurdle, I know there is a UDL to prepare the file for milling operations rather than etching but I'll ask about that when I'm ready for that step.

     

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    Any help will be appreciated!

     

     

    To generate copper areas you need to draw a Polygon around the

    whole/part board. If this area must  connect to a net you must give the

    polygon the same name, i.e. GND if it should connect to gnd.

    Eagle can generate milling files. I suggest you check the eagle help for

    "polygon" and read through the whole thing because you will find

    information about OUTLINES.

     

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    Mit freundlichen Grüßen / With best regards

     

    Joern Paschedag

     

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