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Former Member over 13 years ago

Good morning,

 

I'm a retired computer engineer and I'm using (as a beginner) Eagle 6.2.0 Light. Just as an hobbyst.

My goal is to use Eagle in order to plot the circuit on a HPGL plotter.

 

I've made a basic test, directly on a board panel (no schema).

 

1 - Define first a dimension 3 inches X 2 inches.

2 - Create two VIAS at coordinates 1,1 and 2,1

3 - Draw a wire between the two Vias.

 

Then with Cam processor I output a HPGL file and an Excellon one (no offset required, pen set to 0.35 mm for HPGL)

 

HPGL

IN; IP 0,0,100,100; SC 0,100,0,100;

SP 2;

PA 1031,1031;

PD;

PA 2047,1031;

PU;

SP 6;

PA 994,1068;

PD;

PA 987,1075;

PA 1075,1075;

PA 1075,987;

PA 987,987;

PA 987,1075;

PA 997,1068;

PA 997,994;

PA 1007,994;

PA 1007,1068;

PA 1016,1068;

PA 1016,994;

PA 1026,994;

PA 1026,1068;

PA 1036,1068;

PA 1036,994;

PA 1046,994;

PA 1046,1068;

PA 1055,1068;

PA 1055,994;

PA 1065,994;

PA 1065,1068;

PU;

PA 2010,1068;

PD;

PA 2003,1075;

PA 2091,1075;

PA 2091,987;

PA 2003,987;

PA 2003,1075;

PA 2013,1068;

PA 2013,994;

PA 2023,994;

PA 2023,1068;

PA 2032,1068;

PA 2032,994;

PA 2042,994;

PA 2042,1068;

PA 2052,1068;

PA 2052,994;

PA 2062,994;

PA 2062,1068;

PA 2071,1068;

PA 2071,994;

PA 2081,994;

PA 2081,1068;

PU; SP 0; PA 0,0;

 

Excellon

%

M48

M72

T01C0.0236

%

T01

X10150Y10150

X20150Y10150

M30

 

Now my questions :

1 / I was expecting 2 holes at coordinates

X10000Y10000

X20000Y10000

Why is there an offset of (15,15) mil in the output file ?

 

2 / I was expecting a drawing (HPGL) with vias centerd on the requested coordinates (1,1 and 2,1)

Just consideringf the wire, the output is

SP 2;

PA 1031,1031;

PD;

PA 2047,1031;

PU;

where I was expecting

SP 2;

PA 1000,1000;

PD;

PA 2000,1000;

PU;

Here is seems that there is and offset of (31,31) mil and a distance of 2016 mil... for one inch image

 

I certainly made someting wrong somewhere (I clearly don't think that's an Eagle bug). But what and where ?

I would like sone consitency in the coordinates output and in my brain image

 

Does somebody have answers ?

 

Regards

 

Marc


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    0 Former Member over 13 years ago

    Mistyping : not 2016 but 1016 mil for an inch

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    0 dukepro over 13 years ago

    On 08/22/2012 04:38 AM, Marc Péquignot wrote:

    Good morning,

     

    I'm a retired computer engineer and I'm using (as a beginner) Eagle 6.2.0 Light. Just as an hobbyst.

    My goal is to use Eagle in order to plot the circuit on a HPGL plotter.

     

    I've made a basic test, directly on a board panel (no schema).

     

    1 - Define first a dimension 3 inches X 2 inches.

    2 - Create two VIAS at coordinates 1,1 and 2,1

    3 - Draw a wire between the two Vias.

    ...

    T01

    X10150Y10150

    X20150Y10150

    M30

     

    Now my questions :

    1 / I was expecting 2 holes at coordinates

    X10000Y10000

    X20000Y10000

    Why is there an offset of (15,15) mil in the output file ?

     

    Make sure you have Positive Coordinates unchecked.  I ran across this

    some time ago as well.  With this turned on, the output is offset such

    that all elements are in Quadrant 1.

     

    HTH,

        - Chuck

     

     

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    0 Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to dukepro

    I went thru Eagle and did not found how to set (unset) Positive Coordinates, except with command line. Is it right ?

    This will probably solve the offset question.

    Thank you.

     

    However the main problem (bug ?) is that the distance between two objects (vias in my example) is greater than expected.

    This has confirmed with more investigations. As stated before, an inch is about 1016 mil in the HPGL output.

     

    I think that there is an error in the HPGL output

    image

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    0 dukepro over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    On 08/22/2012 03:58 PM, Marc Péquignot wrote:

    I went thru Eagle and did not found how to set (unset) Positive

    Coordinates, except with command line. Is it right ? This will

    probably solve the offset question. Thank you.

     

    Look in the CAM processor.  In each section (tab), there are a list of

    check boxes in the Style pane.  Mirror, rotate, upside down, and pos.

    Coord are among them.

     

    However the main problem (bug ?) is that the distance between two

    objects (vias in my example) is greater than expected. This has

    confirmed with more investigations. As stated before, an inch is

    about 1016 mil in the HPGL output.

     

    I think that there is an error in the HPGL output image

     

    Can't help you there.  I haven't used HPGL since '89.

     

    Enjoy,

        - Chuck

     

     

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