Lite Version blockage

the limit is 80x100mm (1/2 euro card). Moving outside that area is not

possible.

r

80x100mm is about 3.1x3.9".

The Eagle coordinate display is a bit odd, it shows 0,0 in the upper right

and -2.50 x -3.80 in the lower.   If I size the board outline, does this

size the board or is there a buried property that sizes the board???

The Eagle help does not offer much help.   I've given up on the help system

and am using google for the most part to resolve the usability issues

encountered so far.  Here's what you get when you search board size in Eagle

Help:

Board Size

The Autorouter puts a rectangle around all objects in the board and takes

the size of this rectangle as the routing area. Wires in the Dimension layer

are border lines for the Autorouter. This means you can delimit the route

area with closed lines drawn into this layer with the WIRE command.

In practice you draw the board outlines into the Dimension layer with the

WIRE command and place the components within this area.

"Ing. J.M. Rafetseder" <jrafetseder@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:guue0q$a4r$1@cheetah.cadsoft.de...

the limit is 80x100mm (1/2 euro card). Moving outside that area is not

possible.

r

 

Thom Maughan schrieb:

80x100mm is about 3.1x3.9".

 

The Eagle coordinate display is a bit odd, it shows 0,0 in the upper right

and -2.50 x -3.80 in the lower.   If I size the board outline, does this

size the board or is there a buried property that sizes the board???

You are only allowed to use the positive coordinates in the lite edition.

The board outlines in the dimension layer affects the autorouter and the

DRC as far as I know.

Regards,

Alexander Horst

What to do in making a board with the Lite version of EAGLE:

Open the board from your schematic. Delete any existing dimension wires

(the default ones EAGLE draws to show boundaries), then type this command:

change layer dimension; change width 0; grid mm; wire (0 0) (80 0); wire

(80 0) (80 100); wire (80 100) (0 100); wire (0 100) (0 0);

These are your dimensions for a board layout in EAGLE Lite. You may draw

wires outside these boundaries, but no components may lie outside. From

here, you can chose the move tool and get all of your parts inside this

rectangle. From there, place your parts as you wish, then route using

Autoroute or Route commands.- ted

ted@markson.us

Thom Maughan wrote:

80x100mm is about 3.1x3.9".

 

The Eagle coordinate display is a bit odd, it shows 0,0 in the upper right

and -2.50 x -3.80 in the lower.   If I size the board outline, does this

size the board or is there a buried property that sizes the board???

 

The Eagle help does not offer much help.   I've given up on the help system

and am using google for the most part to resolve the usability issues

encountered so far.  Here's what you get when you search board size in Eagle

Help:

Board Size

The Autorouter puts a rectangle around all objects in the board and takes

the size of this rectangle as the routing area. Wires in the Dimension layer

are border lines for the Autorouter. This means you can delimit the route

area with closed lines drawn into this layer with the WIRE command.

 

In practice you draw the board outlines into the Dimension layer with the

WIRE command and place the components within this area.

 

"Ing. J.M. Rafetseder" <jrafetseder@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:guue0q$a4r$1@cheetah.cadsoft.de...

the limit is 80x100mm (1/2 euro card). Moving outside that area is not

possible.

r

 

On Tue, 19 May 2009, Thom Maughan wrote to us saying :

 

I'm blocked trying to layout the Board.   The footprints are on the board in

the lower right corner.    When I try to move the footprints I get the error

message:

 

"The Light edition of EAGLE can't perform the requested action!  See Help

for further details.

When you add a component to the schematic, Eagle places its package on

the board at negative coordinates. This is explicitly BECAUSE that's not

part of the board - when you add new parts to a circuit you've already

started to lay out, you really don't want them dumped on top of the

existing circuitry.

When you create the board from the schematic, Eagle draws two things on

it :

   -  An outline in the Dimension layer, which shows the allowed board

area

   -  The components from the schematic

So, if you proceed the normal way, as you have, of drawing your whole

first draft schematic then hitting the "board" button, what you get is a

load of parts and a white box. The parts are all outside the box. You

are allowed to move the parts BUT you MUST place them INSIDE the box.

(You can also adjust the outline by moving corners or sides, or adding

corners, or deleting the whole thing and drawing it again. Somebody else

recommended this as a first step - I disagree. Until you're confident I

would recommend leaving the outline as it is until you've placed all

your parts to your satisfaction. If you explicitly KNOW what size your

board must be then by all means draw the outline first, but if you're

just playing then the default outline is useful to show where you are

allowed to put things.)

--

Rob Pearce                       http://www.bdt-home.demon.co.uk

The contents of this | Windows NT crashed.

message are purely   | I am the Blue Screen of Death.

my opinion. Don't    | No one hears your screams.

believe a word.      |

The default outline holds negative coordinates; instead of placing the

left-most and bottom-most extents at their respective 0.0 position,

these are placed at negative values. When using EAGLE Lite, this can be

confusing for some users as they might think these negative extents are

acceptable when doing layout. This is why I recommend redrawing the

dimension boundary, to eliminate any confusion.- ted

ted@markson.us

Robert Pearce wrote:

On Tue, 19 May 2009, Thom Maughan wrote to us saying :

 

I'm blocked trying to layout the Board.   The footprints are on the

board in

the lower right corner.    When I try to move the footprints I get the

error

message:

 

"The Light edition of EAGLE can't perform the requested action!  See Help

for further details.

 

When you add a component to the schematic, Eagle places its package on

the board at negative coordinates. This is explicitly BECAUSE that's not

part of the board - when you add new parts to a circuit you've already

started to lay out, you really don't want them dumped on top of the

existing circuitry.

 

When you create the board from the schematic, Eagle draws two things on

it :

  -  An outline in the Dimension layer, which shows the allowed board area

  -  The components from the schematic

 

So, if you proceed the normal way, as you have, of drawing your whole

first draft schematic then hitting the "board" button, what you get is a

load of parts and a white box. The parts are all outside the box. You

are allowed to move the parts BUT you MUST place them INSIDE the box.

 

(You can also adjust the outline by moving corners or sides, or adding

corners, or deleting the whole thing and drawing it again. Somebody else

recommended this as a first step - I disagree. Until you're confident I

would recommend leaving the outline as it is until you've placed all

your parts to your satisfaction. If you explicitly KNOW what size your

board must be then by all means draw the outline first, but if you're

just playing then the default outline is useful to show where you are

allowed to put things.)

user@domain.invalid wrote:

The default outline holds negative coordinates;

that's no longer the case since 5.x

--

Lorenz

http://lumisense.com/eagle.png

.- ted

ted@markson.us

Lorenz wrote:

user@domain.invalid wrote:

The default outline holds negative coordinates;

 

that's no longer the case since 5.x

On Wed, 20 May 2009, Lorenz wrote to us saying :

user@domain.invalid wrote:

The default outline holds negative coordinates;

 

that's no longer the case since 5.x

And even on 4.15 it was less-negative-than-the-grid-pitch by default,

making it moderately hard to place a component inside the border but at

illegal position. For a newbie, the rule of thumb I gave applies.

--

Rob Pearce                       http://www.bdt-home.demon.co.uk

The contents of this | Windows NT crashed.

message are purely   | I am the Blue Screen of Death.

my opinion. Don't    | No one hears your screams.

believe a word.      |

user@domain.invalid wrote:

http://lumisense.com/eagle.png

 

.- ted

ted@markson.us

 

Lorenz wrote:

user@domain.invalid wrote:

The default outline holds negative coordinates;

 

that's no longer the case since 5.x

a well, I checked with 5.4.0o the change must have occured after 5.0.0

--

Lorenz