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putting copyright symbol in PCB

autodeskguest
autodeskguest over 16 years ago

I'd like to put the copyright ("c" within a circle) symbol within text on a

PCB, like this:

 

 

 

I tried to use the ascii character copied into the clipboard and in the text

info dialog window it shows fine, but on the PCB it is a comma-looking

character.

 

I know that I could manually draw it, but then if I move it around there is

a greater chance I'll not properly copy all the pieces.  I could also make

it a package, but again it would then be seperate from the text that may

move around the board throughout layout.

 

Is there a more inherent internal mechanism to support high-order ascii

characters such as the copyright symbol?

 

thanks,

..dane

 

 

 

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  • autodeskguest
    autodeskguest over 16 years ago

    All vector fonts are implicitly scalable independently in X and Y, and

    hence aspect ratio. Their only problem comes when trying to sample them

    into a raster at small sizes, so the EAGLE vector font should be able to

    easily adjust aspect ratio, if they would permit it.

     

    The Hershey font you are thinking of is Roman Simplex, the same vector

    font that used to be included with Windows 95,98, etc.

     

    I don't dislike the EAGLE vector font, but yeah, could be a little narrower.

     

    I have them all, in .fnt format even, if anyone wants....

     

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    autodeskguest over 16 years ago

    Oliver Betz schrieb:

     

    Please note that ulrimately when generating production output,

    like Gerber files, for instance, you might end up losing those

    characters again, because they are not supported by Gerber.

     

    Not if they were existent in the vector font.

     

    However I do agree that the expense of integrating 8 bit fonts is not

    reasonably related to its advantages.

     

    one problem is that you had to choose one character set and there will

    be customers wanting another one... You need UTF8 these days if you

    want to provide more than 7 bit.

     

    I first had written something like this, too - but then reduced it to

    the simple statement about expense/advantage ratio...

     

    I would rather like hershey font characters for the lower 7 bits...

    image

     

    Would be nicer than the current font, although I don't care much about

    font cosmetics on boards and schematics.

     

    The most important criterion for me is to get the smallest possible

    text for a given minimum trace width. The Eagle font with 15% ratio

    did a good job regarding this.

     

    Do you think that there are better suited Hershey fonts?

     

    Hershey created many fonts. The one I think of is much like

    Helvetica/Arial, but rather narrow. I don't know its name, however... I

    would have to look up my CP/M archives; I once had a program there that

    used these fonts for creating very nice looking printouts - somehow

    similar to the TeX method.

     

    Most of the time, the EAGLE vector font simply is too wide, it wastes

    space that I don't have on the boards.

     

    Tilmann

     

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    autodeskguest over 16 years ago

    Tilmann Reh wrote:

     

    Please note that ulrimately when generating production output,

    like Gerber files, for instance, you might end up losing those

    characters again, because they are not supported by Gerber.

     

    Not if they were existent in the vector font.

     

    However I do agree that the expense of integrating 8 bit fonts is not

    reasonably related to its advantages.

     

    one problem is that you had to choose one character set and there will

    be customers wanting another one... You need UTF8 these days if you

    want to provide more than 7 bit.

     

    I would rather like hershey font characters for the lower 7 bits...

    image

     

    Would be nicer than the current font, although I don't care much about

    font cosmetics on boards and schematics.

     

    The most important criterion for me is to get the smallest possible

    text for a given minimum trace width. The Eagle font with 15% ratio

    did a good job regarding this.

     

    Do you think that there are better suited Hershey fonts?

     

    Oliver

     

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  • autodeskguest
    autodeskguest over 16 years ago

    Klaus Schmidinger schrieb:

     

    Please note that ulrimately when generating production output,

    like Gerber files, for instance, you might end up losing those

    characters again, because they are not supported by Gerber.

     

    Not if they were existent in the vector font.

     

    However I do agree that the expense of integrating 8 bit fonts is not

    reasonably related to its advantages.

     

    I would rather like hershey font characters for the lower 7 bits...

    image

     

    Using only 7bit ASCII characters saves you a lot of trouble image

     

    In the current situation: yes.

     

    Tilmann

     

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  • kcadsoft
    kcadsoft over 16 years ago

    On 11/25/09 20:01, dane wrote:

    Draw a bitmap (add your logo as well) and import it using one of the

    ulp's

    that is coming with Eagle.

    Why not simply draw an arc and a circle?

     

    I can do both of these, however it is a minor nusiance to have to group all

    of the pieces when I wish to move it somewhere else.   I was hoping Eagle

    would support high-order ASCII characters for ease-of-use, that's all.

     

    Please note that ulrimately when generating production output,

    like Gerber files, for instance, you might end up losing those

    characters again, because they are not supported by Gerber.

     

    Using only 7bit ASCII characters saves you a lot of trouble image

     

    Klaus Schmidinger

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    Klaus Schmidinger                       Phone: +49-8635-6989-10

    CadSoft Computer GmbH                   Fax:   +49-8635-6989-40

    Pleidolfweg 15                          Email:   kls@cadsoft.de

    D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany           URL:     www.cadsoft.de

    _______________________________________________________________

     

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  • autodeskguest
    autodeskguest over 16 years ago

    dane wrote:

    Draw a bitmap (add your logo as well) and import it using one of the

    ulp's

    that is coming with Eagle.

    Why not simply draw an arc and a circle?

     

    I can do both of these, however it is a minor nusiance to have to group all

    of the pieces when I wish to move it somewhere else.   I was hoping Eagle

    would support high-order ASCII characters for ease-of-use, that's all.

     

    thanks,

    ...dane

     

     

    It could be made with a no pin lib part with different sizes as a

    different package. To keep it all together add the year and company info

    then it is all one item when editing. I have not used the Ver 5's new

    attributes but a lib part with the circle C with year and company

    attribute would be a nice addition to anybodies lib.

    Paul R.

     

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    autodeskguest over 16 years ago

    Draw a bitmap (add your logo as well) and import it using one of the

    ulp's

    that is coming with Eagle.

     

    Why not simply draw an arc and a circle?

     

    I can do both of these, however it is a minor nusiance to have to group all

    of the pieces when I wish to move it somewhere else.   I was hoping Eagle

    would support high-order ASCII characters for ease-of-use, that's all.

     

    thanks,

    ..dane

     

     

     

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  • kcadsoft
    kcadsoft over 16 years ago

    On 11/24/09 09:47, Morten Leikvoll wrote:

    "dane" <dane.ulp@lewisinnovative.com> wrote in message

    news:hee8jt$3kh$1@cheetah.cadsoft.de...

    Is there a more inherent internal mechanism to support high-order ascii

    characters such as the copyright symbol?

     

    Draw a bitmap (add your logo as well) and import it using one of the ulp's

    that is coming with Eagle.

     

    Why not simply draw an arc and a circle?

     

    Klaus Schmidinger

    --

    _______________________________________________________________

     

    Klaus Schmidinger                       Phone: +49-8635-6989-10

    CadSoft Computer GmbH                   Fax:   +49-8635-6989-40

    Pleidolfweg 15                          Email:   kls@cadsoft.de

    D-84568 Pleiskirchen, Germany           URL:     www.cadsoft.de

    _______________________________________________________________

     

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    autodeskguest over 16 years ago

    "dane" <dane.ulp@lewisinnovative.com> wrote in message

    news:hee8jt$3kh$1@cheetah.cadsoft.de...

    Is there a more inherent internal mechanism to support high-order ascii

    characters such as the copyright symbol?

     

    Draw a bitmap (add your logo as well) and import it using one of the ulp's

    that is coming with Eagle.

     

     

     

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  • e14 Contributor
    e14 Contributor over 16 years ago

    With vector font (used for production in combination with the cam-processor)

    it is not possible to use ascii > 127. This is written somwhere in the

    manual image

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