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EAGLE User Support (English) Blocking ground planes around SMD pads, without causing DRC errors
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Blocking ground planes around SMD pads, without causing DRC errors

autodeskguest
autodeskguest over 15 years ago

Hi,

   I'm putting together a component which is basically a set of contact

pads for an IC programmer -- it consists of two drill holes, and six

pads in this shape:

 

        ( )

         MCLR

         VCC

         VSS

         PGD

         PGC

         AUX

        ( )

 

( ) = drill, = pad

 

Pads are offset 0.05in, and placed on a 0.05in pitch. Drills are 0.8mm.

Each pad is 0.065 x 0.035 inches.

The idea is that during production, a set of test pins are pressed

against the board, the chip is programmed and a short Basic Assurance

Test is run on the core hardware. Once the bootloader is running, the

board is shuttled off to get the OS firmware and FPGA microcode

installed (which is done over USB). Nice idea, in theory at least.

 

There isn't any problem putting this together in the EAGLE library

editor -- in fact, it works quite well. However, if I place a ground

plane, the area around the VSS pad gets filled with copper. I'd rather

this not happen...

 

I tried adding a tRESTRICT polygon to the library component -- this

worked, but caused a ton of DRC errors: one for each pad, and one for

each track segment going to the SMD pads. Hardly ideal.

I also tried outlining the pads with a track on the tRESTRICT layer;

this didn't cause the DRC errors, but didn't completely stop the ground

plane entering the component (I got a pretty arrowhead next to the VSS

pad...)

 

I also tried the same thing with the tKEEPOUT layer -- this had no

effect whatsoever on the fills.

 

So what I want to know is: is there a way to do what I want (keep the

ground plane OUTSIDE the pad area while still allowing tracks inside)

without invoking the Wrath of the Holy DRC Check?

 

(Yes, I know I can just Approve the DRC errors, but I don't want to do

that unless it's absolutely 100% the ONLY way to do this -- approving

errors just seems like an awful hack to me)

 

Thanks,

Phil.

 

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    autodeskguest over 15 years ago

    Olin Lathrop wrote:

    Why?  If they are really the same net, then what's the problem connecting

    them?

     

    It's a serial programming connector with quite small pads -- I'd rather

    like to have a decent area of blank space around said pads to avoid

    short-circuits.

     

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    autodeskguest over 15 years ago

    Olin Lathrop wrote:

    Why?  If they are really the same net, then what's the problem connecting

    them?

     

    It's a serial programming connector with quite small pads -- I'd rather

    like to have a decent area of blank space around said pads to avoid

    short-circuits.

     

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