Auto add >NAME and >VALUE in the symbol editor

martonmiklos wrote on Fri, 20 May 2016 15:17

I think it would be an useful feature if a new symbol is created the

>NAME and the >VALUE texts should be placed automatically, somewere above

the origin of the symbol. Or there could be an option to activate this

behaviour if it would confuse the users.

This would be pointless as the problem it would solve is trivial.

Quote:

Adding these texts are time consuming

There is no need for it to be time consuming.  I use hot keys for this

purpose.  For example, here are the key assignments for this purpose in the

package editor:

assign F12 'grid inch .005 20 lines on; cha siz .05; cha rat 16; cha lay

tnam; text >NAME'

assign S+F12 'grid inch .005 20 lines on; cha siz .05; cha rat 16; cha lay

tval; text >VALUE'

assign C+F12 'grid inch .005 20 lines on; cha siz .03; cha rat 10; cha lay

tdocu; text >NAME'

F12 let's me easily place the component name on the silkscreen, Shift-F12

the value, and Ctrl-F12 the name that shows up in the assembly drawing.

Anything built in won't get it right and be more trouble than it's worth.

I use F12 similarly for symbols (which are simpler than packages, odd that

you aren't complaining about that instead), except there's no issue of a

drawing so my Ctrl-F12 doesn't apply.

Eagle gives us the tools to customize these kinds of things ourselves.  Use

them instead of asking for your specific usage to be built in and burden

everyone else.

Quote:

it is easier to delete one if not needed then placeing them in most

cases.

NO!  Don't give me another "standard" thing Eagle does that I then just

have to delete.

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martonmiklos wrote on Fri, 20 May 2016 15:17

I think it would be an useful feature if a new symbol is created the

>NAME and the >VALUE texts should be placed automatically, somewere above

the origin of the symbol. Or there could be an option to activate this

behaviour if it would confuse the users.

This would be pointless as the problem it would solve is trivial.

Quote:

Adding these texts are time consuming

There is no need for it to be time consuming.  I use hot keys for this

purpose.  For example, here are the key assignments for this purpose in the

package editor:

assign F12 'grid inch .005 20 lines on; cha siz .05; cha rat 16; cha lay

tnam; text >NAME'

assign S+F12 'grid inch .005 20 lines on; cha siz .05; cha rat 16; cha lay

tval; text >VALUE'

assign C+F12 'grid inch .005 20 lines on; cha siz .03; cha rat 10; cha lay

tdocu; text >NAME'

F12 let's me easily place the component name on the silkscreen, Shift-F12

the value, and Ctrl-F12 the name that shows up in the assembly drawing.

Anything built in won't get it right and be more trouble than it's worth.

I use F12 similarly for symbols (which are simpler than packages, odd that

you aren't complaining about that instead), except there's no issue of a

drawing so my Ctrl-F12 doesn't apply.

Eagle gives us the tools to customize these kinds of things ourselves.  Use

them instead of asking for your specific usage to be built in and burden

everyone else.

Quote:

it is easier to delete one if not needed then placeing them in most

cases.

NO!  Don't give me another "standard" thing Eagle does that I then just

have to delete.

--

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martonmiklos wrote on Fri, 20 May 2016 15:17

I think it would be an useful feature if a new symbol is created the

>NAME and the >VALUE texts should be placed automatically, somewere above

the origin of the symbol. Or there could be an option to activate this

behaviour if it would confuse the users.

This would be pointless as the problem it would solve is trivial.

Quote:

Adding these texts are time consuming

There is no need for it to be time consuming.  I use hot keys for this

purpose.  For example, here are the key assignments for this purpose in the

package editor:

assign F12 'grid inch .005 20 lines on; cha siz .05; cha rat 16; cha lay

tnam; text >NAME'

assign S+F12 'grid inch .005 20 lines on; cha siz .05; cha rat 16; cha lay

tval; text >VALUE'

assign C+F12 'grid inch .005 20 lines on; cha siz .03; cha rat 10; cha lay

tdocu; text >NAME'

F12 let's me easily place the component name on the silkscreen, Shift-F12

the value, and Ctrl-F12 the name that shows up in the assembly drawing.

Anything built in won't get it right and be more trouble than it's worth.

I use F12 similarly for symbols (which are simpler than packages, odd that

you aren't complaining about that instead), except there's no issue of a

drawing so my Ctrl-F12 doesn't apply.

Eagle gives us the tools to customize these kinds of things ourselves.  Use

them instead of asking for your specific usage to be built in and burden

everyone else.

Quote:

it is easier to delete one if not needed then placeing them in most

cases.

NO!  Don't give me another "standard" thing Eagle does that I then just

have to delete.

--

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martonmiklos wrote on Fri, 20 May 2016 15:17

I think it would be an useful feature if a new symbol is created the

>NAME and the >VALUE texts should be placed automatically, somewere above

the origin of the symbol. Or there could be an option to activate this

behaviour if it would confuse the users.

This would be pointless as the problem it would solve is trivial.

Quote:

Adding these texts are time consuming

There is no need for it to be time consuming.  I use hot keys for this

purpose.  For example, here are the key assignments for this purpose in the

package editor:

assign F12 'grid inch .005 20 lines on; cha siz .05; cha rat 16; cha lay

tnam; text >NAME'

assign S+F12 'grid inch .005 20 lines on; cha siz .05; cha rat 16; cha lay

tval; text >VALUE'

assign C+F12 'grid inch .005 20 lines on; cha siz .03; cha rat 10; cha lay

tdocu; text >NAME'

F12 let's me easily place the component name on the silkscreen, Shift-F12

the value, and Ctrl-F12 the name that shows up in the assembly drawing.

Anything built in won't get it right and be more trouble than it's worth.

I use F12 similarly for symbols (which are simpler than packages, odd that

you aren't complaining about that instead), except there's no issue of a

drawing so my Ctrl-F12 doesn't apply.

Eagle gives us the tools to customize these kinds of things ourselves.  Use

them instead of asking for your specific usage to be built in and burden

everyone else.

Quote:

it is easier to delete one if not needed then placeing them in most

cases.

NO!  Don't give me another "standard" thing Eagle does that I then just

have to delete.

--

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Morten Leikvoll wrote on Mon, 23 May 2016 08:58

An very good alternative would be to create event driven actions,

similar to CONTEXT. Maybe a SET EVENT supporting new object events, like

 

SET EVENT newlibsymbol 'run newsymbol.ulp' and

SET EVENT newlibpart 'run newpart.ulp'

 

That would cover all preferences, and even add more functionality.

I really like the idea of adding some kind of event handling to

automatically trigger running of ULP's. I could think of loads of uses for

this depending on what events were made available. This should be made as a

separate suggestion so it doesn't get lost within this thread.

Regarding this suggestion for >NAME and >VALUE, a script to place text in

the style of your choosing as others have said would work well and allows

for all sorts of customizations.

Best Regards,

Rachael

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On 20.05.2016 21:17, Márton Miklós wrote:

Hello all,

 

I think it would be an useful feature if a new symbol is created the

NAME and the >VALUE texts should be placed automatically, somewere

above the origin of the symbol. Or there could be an option to activate

this behaviour if it would confuse the users.

 

Adding these texts are time consuming even if I copy them from an

another symbol, even if I place them. Most symbols have them both, and

it is easier to delete one if not needed then placeing them in most cases.

 

The same could be implemented in the package editor too.

 

I think it would be relatively easy to implement.

This has been on my mind too. I wouldn't mind those two attributes, and

a default frame, all at their respective layers, to show up when you

create a new symbol or part. Then the users who want to do it different

are allowed to delete them.

An very good alternative would be to create event driven actions,

similar to CONTEXT. Maybe a SET EVENT supporting new object events, like

SET EVENT newlibsymbol 'run newsymbol.ulp' and

SET EVENT newlibpart 'run newpart.ulp'

That would cover all preferences, and even add more functionality.

Hi,

Years ago, I would agree with your suggestion, but now I for my usage a script (as Tilmann's suggestion) is a better solution: a script let you define exactly the text (font, size, ratio, align...) and it's not limited to the >NAME and >VALUE. For example I always use the >NAME, but I only use the >VALUE for passive complainants, for other components I prefer to display some of my owns attributes.

Guillaume

Márton Miklós schrieb:

I think it would be an useful feature if a new symbol is created the

>NAME and the >VALUE texts should be placed automatically, somewere

above the origin of the symbol. Or there could be an option to activate

this behaviour if it would confuse the users.

 

Adding these texts are time consuming even if I copy them from an

another symbol, even if I place them. Most symbols have them both, and

it is easier to delete one if not needed then placeing them in most cases.

 

The same could be implemented in the package editor too.

 

I think it would be relatively easy to implement.

You could simply write a script for this and run that every time you

create a new symbol (or package, respectively). You might even assign

that script to a function key if you like.

This would also ensure that you always use the right font(s) and size(s)

since you would of course set them accordingly in the script.

Tilmann

Márton Miklós schrieb:

I think it would be an useful feature if a new symbol is created the

>NAME and the >VALUE texts should be placed automatically, somewere

above the origin of the symbol. Or there could be an option to activate

this behaviour if it would confuse the users.

 

Adding these texts are time consuming even if I copy them from an

another symbol, even if I place them. Most symbols have them both, and

it is easier to delete one if not needed then placeing them in most cases.

 

The same could be implemented in the package editor too.

 

I think it would be relatively easy to implement.

You could simply write a script for this and run that every time you

create a new symbol (or package, respectively). You might even assign

that script to a function key if you like.

This would also ensure that you always use the right font(s) and size(s)

since you would of course set them accordingly in the script.

Tilmann