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EAGLE v8.0 Implicit Group   Command (Yeh) and Beeps on Every Left-Button Click (Boo)

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autodeskguest over 8 years ago

Trying to keep an open mind about v8.0 and hoping that the licensing issues

will work themselves out....

 

For for now, seeing what's different.  First thing I noticed is that EAGLE

finally has implicit grouping.  I suggested this years ago and finally it's

made it in.  Basically, if you don't have a command active and you draw a

rectangle it will create an EAGLE group as if you ran the EAGLE group

command (not persistent groups like other CAD software has, but essentially

a temporary group for the next command, like EAGLE has always had).

 

So that is great.  That will save lots of mouse clicks once I get used to

it.

 

But.....

 

Now I get an error beep on the first left-mouse button click whenever a

command isn't active, including the first corner of a group.  That is super

annoying.  For instance, in the schematic editor, a left-click anywhere

(with no command active) will beep AND start creating the first line in a

polygon for creating a group.  Very similar in PCB editor.

 

Also, when I run the group command I get a beep on the first mouse click

even when EAGLE should know that clicking in an area with no objects is

actually expected.

 

I assume that this is maybe something that somehow got missed (maybe the

sound was down) when implementing the implicit group function.  But it

should be fixed as it is really annoying.

 

Cheers,

 

James.

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  • COMPACT
    COMPACT over 8 years ago in reply to rachaelp +1
    That's sure some Wile E. Coyote. Beep, Beep! I don't get any beeping at all with 8.0.2. (Windows) What procedure are you performing. All I do is press ESC and that defaults to the Group tool , left drag…
  • COMPACT
    COMPACT over 8 years ago in reply to rachaelp +1
    Silly me! My PC was outputting sound to a non existent HDMI speakers. Yes it does beep for the initial group click - that doesn't annoy me because I'm accustomed to it. May be a workaround is to mute the…
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  • axnfell
    axnfell over 8 years ago

    Yep same problem here and cannot find a work around except to carry on doing my work in Labcenter Proteus, I have been trying to get to grips with Eagle but as it beeps everytime you do something I just get so fed up with it and cannot turn down the audio as its needed for the telephone systems that we use that go through our computers, im suggesting that we stick with Proteus till someone can sort this obvious bug out...

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    rachaelp over 8 years ago in reply to axnfell

    Go to Options -> Set... -> Misc

     

    Ant then untick Group command default on and Beep and v7 functionality will be restored and also the beeps will be gone.

     

    Best Regards,

     

    Rachael

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    COMPACT over 8 years ago in reply to rachaelp

    That's sure some Wile E. Coyote.

    Beep, Beep!

     

    I don't get any beeping at all with 8.0.2. (Windows)

    What procedure are you performing.

     

    All I do is press ESC and that defaults to the Group tool , left drag to define a rectangle (or some left clicks and a right click to define a closed polygon) and it seems to work perfectly well.

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    COMPACT over 8 years ago in reply to rachaelp

    That's sure some Wile E. Coyote.

    Beep, Beep!

     

    I don't get any beeping at all with 8.0.2. (Windows)

    What procedure are you performing.

     

    All I do is press ESC and that defaults to the Group tool , left drag to define a rectangle (or some left clicks and a right click to define a closed polygon) and it seems to work perfectly well.

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    rachaelp over 8 years ago in reply to COMPACT

    COMPACT wrote:

     

    I don't get any beeping at all with 8.0.2. (Windows)

    What procedure are you performing.

    Maybe it's a Mac version thing? It definitely doesn't work right in 8.0.2 on either of my Mac's. v8.0.1 works as expected though so they definitely changed something that caused a regression for me. All I am doing is trying to define an irregular shaped group area within the library editor and it totally misbehaves. Takes multiple clicks to get it to actually start doing what I expect. Revert to v8.0.1 and all is fine again. I actually don't find the new way of operating speeds anything up though and changing to the old way just seems to work better for me at the moment.

     

    COMPACT wrote:

     

    All I do is press ESC and that defaults to the Group tool , left drag to define a rectangle (or some left clicks and a right click to define a closed polygon) and it seems to work perfectly well.

    Sadly that does not work for me in v8.0.2. The ESC and left drag work as expected, the clicking to define the polygon doesn't.

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