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Wanted - PC borad or example schematics

autodeskguest
autodeskguest over 9 years ago

 

Hi

 

Can anyone helP?

 

I'm looking for a CPU board with some rom(or flash or whatever) some ram and

USB I/O  but little or nothing else. (IE No video chips etc)

IE Minimal bare metal.

 

CPU to be as powerful as possible - If theres an X86-64 board that would be ideal.

I could use 32 or 64 bit CPU. Power is my key factor. (I dont want a

multiprocessor board or "network")

 

I'm happy to buy an existing board to meet my needs or could build one if

a suitable circuit example exists.

 

The only eagle design I can find is an atmel which is clearly no good to me.

 

Does anyone have any ideas?

 

Thanks

 

colin

 

 

 

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  • rachaelp
    rachaelp over 9 years ago in reply to autodeskguest +4
    colin[2] wrote: Everybody please - thank you - I'm done. Good for you! colin[2] wrote: Hopefully that answers the daft comment about "prejudice" earlier. also. Repeatedly demanding more information "so…
  • geralds
    geralds over 9 years ago in reply to balearicdynamics +4
    Hi, are sure that the Gizmo board helps? What if he want to build a space shuttle? He didn't describe concrete what he want neither for what he need the processor. Gerald ---
  • shabaz
    shabaz over 9 years ago in reply to autodeskguest +3
    Hi Colin, Everyone here has been trying to read sufficient engineering requirements from you, but the information is too vague to help in any meaningful way. In fact, your first post didn't quantify a…
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  • jc2048
    jc2048 over 9 years ago

    Would this do what you want?

     

    http://www.gocct.com/sheets/TP/tpb1x3sd.htm

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    jc2048 over 9 years ago

    Would this do what you want?

     

    http://www.gocct.com/sheets/TP/tpb1x3sd.htm

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  • autodeskguest
    autodeskguest over 9 years ago in reply to jc2048

    In article

    <1685845295.241488201215693.JavaMail.jive@e14-cr-vp-appj8-04.premierfarnel

    l.net>, noreply-379382@element14.com says...

     

    Would this do what you want?

     

    http://www.gocct.com/sheets/TP/tpb1x3sd.htm

     

    thanks but no.

    (It has graphics, ethernet, sata etc ...)

    I'm looking for a processor only board with just processor support on board..

    It seems no one makes anything close but thanks to everyone for trying.

    I guess I'll have to do my own painful as that is.

     

     

     

     

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    autodeskguest over 9 years ago in reply to jc2048

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    <1685845295.241488201215693.JavaMail.jive@e14-cr-vp-appj8-04.premierfarnel

    l.net>, noreply-379382@element14.com says...

     

    Would this do what you want?

     

    http://www.gocct.com/sheets/TP/tpb1x3sd.htm

     

    thanks but no.

    (It has graphics, ethernet, sata etc ...)

    I'm looking for a processor only board with just processor support on board..

    It seems no one makes anything close but thanks to everyone for trying.

    I guess I'll have to do my own painful as that is.

     

     

     

     

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  • rachaelp
    rachaelp over 9 years ago in reply to autodeskguest

    You say you want a lot of processing grunt and say you want an FPU yet you rule out graphics chips as "just for graphics". They are not. Take a look at OpenCL or CUDA for example. The graphics architectures for a long time now have been designed to be more useful for things other than gaming. What do you think the NVidia Tesla type products designed with HPC in mind are based upon?

     

    How about something like this? http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/jetson-embedded-systems-uk.html

     

    It's an embedded system based around a combined ARM/GPU architecture. Look specifically at the TX1 which is very minimal but exceedingly capable with lots of number crunching grunt. The ARM is a quad core 64-bit A57 and the GPU is based on their Maxwell architecture with 256 cores and will do 1 TFLOP/s.

     

    Is this minimal enough and powerful enough?

     

    Best Regards,


    Rachael

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  • geralds
    geralds over 9 years ago in reply to autodeskguest

    You can, perhaps, your processor carve with an ASIC or FPGA.

     

    Have a nice day.

    Best Regards

    Gerald

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  • jlangbridge
    jlangbridge over 9 years ago in reply to autodeskguest

    Hey, watch it! ARM processors are more powerful than you might think. And no, I'm not talking about microcontrollers, but full microprocessor architecture.

     

    I'll second what a few people have said, we don't know exactly what you want, so I'll come up with a few ideas. I don't have a board readily made, since almost everyone adds in Ethernet or SD controllers, "because they can". Some of us actually like that sort of peripheral to be available, even if we don't use them. Olimex has a lot of boards, and most probably have external peripherals, but most importantly, all the schematics are available, so you can make your own module, depending on what you need. As for x86_64, Curtiss-Wright had a few; processors, bus connectors, and nothing else. https://www.curtisswrightds.com/products/cots-boards/processor-cards/

     

    One option that you will probably say no to is the NVIDIA Jetson Compute Module. Now, before you start, yes they make graphics cards, but NVIDIA is known for making some of the best industry number crunchers. Don't underestimate the power of CUDA. Again, that depends on the numbers you want to crunch, and how. Xeons might be better, CUDA might be better, or other massively parallel chips.

     

    Hope that helps

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  • autodeskguest
    autodeskguest over 9 years ago in reply to rachaelp

     

    Everybody please - thank you - I'm done. What I want isn't available

    or cannot be identified by the people here. A production project has been started

    to identify products and companies  to produce it while we search elsewhere.

     

    Repeatedly telling me that ARM's are good just ignores the fact I've said

    they are no good to me. They don't have the power, the architecture is

    overcomplex by trying to hit too many buttons amongst other issues

    and the licensing is absurd or at the very least unaceptable.

     

    I'm not happy about using X86 either - it's a botched product because

    of it's history and is difficult to use for similar reasons to the ARM

    processors - it does however have more power and a very wide freely

    available toolbase meaning employee skills are easy enough to find.

    Just to be clear - intel did a great job of backward protection but that

    means an ineficient difficult to use badly designed CPU for new

    products. In short - for anything new it's a dog. But there's nothing

    comparable so I'm stuck with it for now.

     

    Hopefully that answers the daft comment about "prejudice" earlier. also.

     

    Repeatedly demanding more information "so you can provide an answer"

    just tells me you either havn't read what i asked for or don't know enough

    to answer in the first place.

     

    So - no need to continue wasting your time.

    once again - thank you all for the suggestions but you can stop now.

     

    colin

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • rachaelp
    rachaelp over 9 years ago in reply to autodeskguest

    colin[2] wrote:

     

    Everybody please - thank you - I'm done.

     

    Good for you!

     

    colin[2] wrote:

     

    Hopefully that answers the daft comment about "prejudice" earlier. also.

     

    Repeatedly demanding more information "so you can provide an answer"

    just tells me you either havn't read what i asked for or don't know enough

    to answer in the first place.

     

    So - no need to continue wasting your time.

    once again - thank you all for the suggestions but you can stop now.

     

    colin

    This is just rude, and saying thank you in your last sentence doesn't make it any less so.

     

    Lots of people on here are very capable engineering professionals who share their experience here for free. If we were paid to do consultancy for a project a more thorough response might be more forthcoming but you can't expect people to spend lots of effort trying to help you find your answers for free, especially when you are dismissive and rude.

     

    I wish you the best of luck with your project but I wont partake in your discussions any further.

     

    Regards,

     

    Rachael

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  • geralds
    geralds over 9 years ago in reply to autodeskguest

    Ah,

    what I'm remember about it.

    There was at that time a processor called "Transputer", - e.g. T400, T800, from INMOS.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transputer

     

    That was an open system fine and easy to use for parallel processing.

    I don't know where you can actually get this thing, please look for.

    I was also interested about it, that was so in the 80's.

     

    Gerald

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  • geralds
    geralds over 9 years ago in reply to autodeskguest

    Hi,

    You never told us about your projects.
    We can not read into your brain what you think.

    AND!!! Many projects are under security and we can not divulging our secrets.
    But, I think you have a secret project ... from the "COMPANY"?

     

    Have a nice day.

    Gerald

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  • autodeskguest
    autodeskguest over 9 years ago in reply to rachaelp

    In article

    <874879143.151488369719990.JavaMail.jive@e14-cr-vp-appj8-02.premierfarnell.

    net>, noreply-391202@element14.com says...

    This is just rude, and saying thank you in your last sentence doesn't make it any less so

     

     

    As a matter of fact I've been very polite.

    This newsgroup I believe has not in the least judging by the last few posts.

    Clearly not a group of professionals.

     

    Element 14 was a last ditch effort to source what we need - I won't waste my

    time in future if this is how people behave here.

     

    .colin

     

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