DipTrace

Zoltán Kócsi schrieb:

We don't do Windows and don't want to

run Wine either which severely limits our choices.

 

One possibility would be DipTrace,

...which you excluded by "not Windows or Wine":

<http://diptrace.com/support/faq/#c207>

Tilmann

On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 16:14:01 +0200

Tilmann Reh <usenet2007nospam@autometer.de> wrote:

One possibility would be DipTrace,

 

...which you excluded by "not Windows or Wine":

<http://diptrace.com/support/faq/#c207>

I did not say "neither Mac", did I ...

Zoltan

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Zoltán Kócsi

Bendor Research Pty. Ltd.

How about Mentor Graphics Xpedition or E-Z Circuit by Bishop Graphics?

Tape and film, those were the days - we used to buy the supplies from Ciruitape in the UK. I can still remember an engineer called Gerard idly fidgeting with the scalpel we used to cut the tape and dropping it, point down, onto his leg

We moved over to using blue and red tape for double sided boards.

MK

On Fri, 31 Mar 2017 04:49:42 GMT

COMPACT <noreply-67118@element14.com> wrote:

How about Mentor Graphics Xpedition

Yeah, funny.

or E-Z Circuit by Bishop Graphics?

I was more of a Letraset man.

Then OrCAD on DOS with a whopping 72dpi Epson dot-matrix printer.

Of those I really miss the DOS OrCAD's schematics editor, the most

useful(!) feature rich schematics entry I've ever worked width. Then

they moved to Windows and replaced the useful features with useless

eye-candy.

Alas, reminiscing about the good old days of spray-on photoresin and

UV lamp and acetone or the iron-trichloride bath at the corner of the

workbench and whatnot can't really help me finding an Eagle replacement

for Linux or Mac, can it

But thanks anyway.

Zoltan

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Zoltán Kócsi

Bendor Research Pty. Ltd.

On Fri, 31 Mar 2017 00:06:30 +1100, Zoltán Kócsi

<zoltan@bendor.com.au> wrote:

One possibility would be DipTrace, which on the surface seems to do

everything that Eagle can do and it's pricetag is at the same league.

 

So I just wonder whether someone had some experience with it and could

compare it to Eagle, pros/cons, better at this, worse at that style?

I don't know that program at all so I can't comment specifically.  But

here is the problem when you "go off the reservation".  Before it was

assassinated, Eagle was the defacto standard for amateurs and small to

medium size commercial operations.  The board houses we're likely to

use know Eagle and know the common mistakes people make.  If you use

any other package, you're on your own.  You send them the Gerbers and

if they do any checking at all, it's for very obvious things such as

crossed traces.

However.

Things have changed.  Since Eagle was murdered, board houses like

Seeed.com and the major open source hardware sites have included

KiCAD, the new defacto standard.  Among the advantages:

• It's free and Open Source software so it can never be taken away

from you.

• Its development has been commercially financed by CERN for the past

couple of years and it shows.  It is now good enough to do commercial

work with.  I've just finished the main board for my company's latest

induction heater.  A complex board with about 400 components including

a 100 pin flat pack with 0.5mm pin spacing.

• of the board houses I've checked with, most all now know KiCAD.

• Once you get used to KiCAD's idiosyncrasies (no worse than Eagle's),

you'll never have to re-learn again.  And you'll never have to pay for

PCB CAD software again.

John

John DeArmond

http://www.neon-john.com

http://www.tnduction.com

Tellico Plains, Occupied TN

See website for email address

KiCad receives "some" funding from CERN, but most of the development is

still done by volunteers when they can afford some free time from their

life and real jobs. KiCad needs your donations to keep the pace of

development up to users expectations. It is unlikely to ever keep up with

Eagle until users start making meaningful contributions to KiCad. The cost

of development by professional software engineers is about $60/hour. You

can contribute here...

https://giving.web.cern.ch/civicrm/contribute/transact?reset=1&id=6

If you use it, contribute, especially if you make a living with it.

Rick

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Am 31.03.2017 um 16:18 schrieb Zoltán Kócsi:

Of those I really miss the DOS OrCAD's schematics editor, the most

useful(!) feature rich schematics entry I've ever worked width.

YES!  Me too…

On 31.03.2017 16:18, Zoltán Kócsi wrote:

Of those I really miss the DOS OrCAD's schematics editor, the most

useful(!) feature rich schematics entry I've ever worked width. Then

they moved to Windows and replaced the useful features with useless

eye-candy.

I'd like to hear what you really lost, or if this is just ludditity

Yes I have used both of this software EAGLE CAD as well as DipTrace for design so many circuits and lots of practice with both of this software both have some good features and some its limitation too, like Diptrace have facility to auto place that feature not more expensive in EagleCad but EagleCad have great library function almost parts and components available in eagle cad and some parts have not in diptrace but in diptrace have good and advanced tool to show your PCB in 3D view after designing that's may be plus point of diptrace, but Eagle Cad is absolutely Good.