Changing fonts

Fox_Alex schrieb:

I need to select non-standart font for all text in the schematics, but

Eagle does not support it. So I have to export sheet to DXF and edit it

with Autocad. It`s working, but change font in Eagle would be very easier.

EAGLE only supports its built-in fonts.

The request for support of "external" fonts from the system is a very

long-standing one. Personally, I fear it won't be implemented at all.

Tilmann

The request for support of "external" fonts from the system is a very

long-standing one. Personally, I fear it won't be implemented at all.

Hi Guys,

This another one of those long standing requests. It's considered low

priority though, hence why it hasn't been implemented yet.

I used to be of the opinion that EAGLE should only use vector fonts

period. However, the proportional fonts are necessary for those who want

searchable PDFs from EAGLE. For whatever reason vector-font doesn't

produce a searchable PDF which is an important feature for many users.

I recall a little while ago, that someone made a Hershey text ULP which

basically writes all of the text in the board using the Hershey

font(much nicer IMHO). It's not without it's flaws(doesn't support

multi-line text) but the end result is quite useable.

I can't add it to the wishlist since it's already there.

hth,

Jorge Garcia

On 03.11.2015 17:58, Jorge Garcia wrote:

I used to be of the opinion that EAGLE should only use vector fonts

period. However, the proportional fonts are necessary for those who want

searchable PDFs from EAGLE. For whatever reason vector-font doesn't

produce a searchable PDF which is an important feature for many users.

There is no need for proportional fonts to make pdf's searchable, so

this argument is void. I have seen raw scanned pdf's searchable.

I'm not sure how this is done, but I would think its some kind of

metadata. Maybe this link is useful:

http://searchable-pdf.com/content.php?lang=en&c=61

CadSoft Guest wrote:

 

On 03.11.2015 17:58, Jorge Garcia wrote:

I used to be of the opinion that EAGLE should only use vector fonts

period. However, the proportional fonts are necessary for those who want

searchable PDFs from EAGLE. For whatever reason vector-font doesn't

produce a searchable PDF which is an important feature for many users.

 

There is no need for proportional fonts to make pdf's searchable, so

this argument is void. I have seen raw scanned pdf's searchable.

I'm not sure how this is done, but I would think its some kind of

metadata. Maybe this link is useful:

http://searchable-pdf.com/content.php?lang=en&c=61

 

 

I agree. Have a look at this thread: http://www.element14.com/community/thread/44740/l/pdf-is-not-searchable-again

Vector fonts should be the default imho. It looks more "professional" as well.

Ever seen the default font of altium? It's terrible.

Kind Regards,

Joop

Jorge Garcia schrieb:

The request for support of "external" fonts from the system is a very

long-standing one. Personally, I fear it won't be implemented at all.

 

Hi Guys,

 

This another one of those long standing requests. It's considered low

priority though, hence why it hasn't been implemented yet.

I agree that it's low priority.

I used to be of the opinion that EAGLE should only use vector fonts

period.

If the vector font wouldn't be that ugly, I would agree...

However, the proportional fonts are necessary for those who want

searchable PDFs from EAGLE. For whatever reason vector-font doesn't

produce a searchable PDF which is an important feature for many users.

As Morten already pointed out, these are different issues and not

necessarily related to each other.

I recall a little while ago, that someone made a Hershey text ULP which

basically writes all of the text in the board using the Hershey

font(much nicer IMHO). It's not without it's flaws(doesn't support

multi-line text) but the end result is quite useable.

Yes, I already use that Hershey ULP in some cases when the silk screen

on the board needs to be "more beautyful". (In schematics, I always use

proportional font only - but if EAGLE would support Hershey as built-in

font, I would be lucky with that also.)

But this ULP is cumbersome to use, particularly if anything changes in

your board after you used the ULP to generate nice looking text. (Not to

say anything against the ULP, the author did a great job and it's as

good as it can be.) A nice looking built-in vector font is the only

good solution - and this also is a very long-standing request that

should have been addressed years ago, IMHO. It shouldn't be too much

work to implement Hershey as fourth font. All you need is already there

and/or freely available.

Tilmann

Jorge Garcia schrieb:

The request for support of "external" fonts from the system is a very

long-standing one. Personally, I fear it won't be implemented at all.

 

Hi Guys,

 

This another one of those long standing requests. It's considered low

priority though, hence why it hasn't been implemented yet.

I agree that it's low priority.

I used to be of the opinion that EAGLE should only use vector fonts

period.

If the vector font wouldn't be that ugly, I would agree...

However, the proportional fonts are necessary for those who want

searchable PDFs from EAGLE. For whatever reason vector-font doesn't

produce a searchable PDF which is an important feature for many users.

As Morten already pointed out, these are different issues and not

necessarily related to each other.

I recall a little while ago, that someone made a Hershey text ULP which

basically writes all of the text in the board using the Hershey

font(much nicer IMHO). It's not without it's flaws(doesn't support

multi-line text) but the end result is quite useable.

Yes, I already use that Hershey ULP in some cases when the silk screen

on the board needs to be "more beautyful". (In schematics, I always use

proportional font only - but if EAGLE would support Hershey as built-in

font, I would be lucky with that also.)

But this ULP is cumbersome to use, particularly if anything changes in

your board after you used the ULP to generate nice looking text. (Not to

say anything against the ULP, the author did a great job and it's as

good as it can be.) A nice looking built-in vector font is the only

good solution - and this also is a very long-standing request that

should have been addressed years ago, IMHO. It shouldn't be too much

work to implement Hershey as fourth font. All you need is already there

and/or freely available.

Tilmann

Tilmann Reh wrote on Wed, 04 November 2015 02:59

A nice looking built-in vector font is the only good solution

Not really.  Simply allowing us to define our own font is another way,

which I'd prefer.  Eagle can default to the existing font.

Quote:

It shouldn't be too much work to implement Hershey as fourth font.

I'd actually rather they didn't.  Then we'll end up with something else

that's not quite what we want in some instances, but with once again no way

to address it.  Make the definition of all the characters soft with

commands to define whatever vectors you want per character.  Then we can

all get whatever fonts we like.

For example, I use the Hershey fonts too, mostly.  I've made a few minor

customizations to them, and would like to use them too.  These include

adding the Ohm, micro, and other symbols at known character codes.  Of

course the TEXT command would have to be expanded to allow arbitrary

character codes to be specified.

Writing a program that takes a font definition and generates the Eagle

script to load that into Eagle would be trivial.  People would probably

upload scripts for various fonts, so those that are happy with someone

else's details don't have to do anything beyond run a canned script.

Give me customizability over built-in features!  This way Eagle doesn't

have to include any new font at all, and doesn't need a complicated

interface to manage fonts.  This should actually  be easier on the

developers.

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