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wilykat
wilykat over 8 years ago

https://www.dropbox.com/s/p0y0s7xhj8qqhb7/LED%20cube%20board.brd?dl=0 my current WIP at this point.

 

Can anyone explain the air wire between GND and VCC near the bottom?  Picture: https://imgur.com/on0AMd8 the pink arrow.  There's also a few yellow X's where the trace connects with decoupling capacitor pins, like Eagle doesn't know those traces are connected with capacitor's leg.

 

I don't have the schematic for this one, I got the original one from https://www.oshpark.com/shared_projects/LyWFDL0A   There was some mistakes with the original board, some grounds rails weren't connected, and the decoupling capacitor was in series between VCC rail and the chip's VCC pin, this would have isolated and prevented all 9 chips from getting power. I changed the caps so all VCC pins were connected directly to VCC rail, and the capacitor now connects from VCC to ground. Also fixed a couple missing ground connections to the 16 transistors and to ground pin of one of the chip.  It's almost like the previous person designed the board without using Eagle's schematic for some reason?  Oh and I added text of pin function with the 2 pin headers, marked all 9 chips, and noted all resistor (except one marked 330) and all capacitors are the same value 100 and 0.1uF

 

Anyway can someone double check that I don't have VCC and ground crossed and see why there's air wire trying to connect that 2?  It'd be around $60 down the drain if the board was useless because I missed something.

 

Still to do: replace 16 pin header with 12 as 4 of the pins aren't used and one pin (15) is in the way of the circuit trace.

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    autodeskguest over 8 years ago

    On 05.09.2017 11:16, Eric Chapin wrote:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/p0y0s7xhj8qqhb7/LED%20cube%20board.brd?dl=0 my current WIP at this point.

     

    Can anyone explain the air wire between GND and VCC near the bottom?  Picture: https://imgur.com/on0AMd8 the pink arrow.  There's also a few yellow X's where the trace connects with decoupling capacitor pins, like Eagle doesn't know those traces are connected with capacitor's leg.

     

    I don't have the schematic for this one, I got the original one from https://www.oshpark.com/shared_projects/LyWFDL0A   There was some mistakes with the original board, some grounds rails weren't connected, and the decoupling capacitor was in series between VCC rail and the chip's VCC pin, this would have isolated and prevented all 9 chips from getting power. I changed the caps so all VCC pins were connected directly to VCC rail, and the capacitor now connects from VCC to ground. Also fixed a couple missing ground connections to the 16 transistors and to ground pin of one of the chip.  It's almost like the previous person designed the board without using Eagle's schematic for some reason?  Oh and I added text of pin function with the 2 pin headers, marked all 9 chips, and noted all resistor (except one marked 330) and all capacitors are the same value 100 and 0.1uF

     

    Anyway can someone double check that I don't have VCC and ground crossed and see why there's air wire trying to connect that 2?  It'd be around $60 down the drain if the board was useless because I missed something.

     

    Still to do: replace 16 pin header with 12 as 4 of the pins aren't used and one pin (15) is in the way of the circuit trace.

     

    The VIA there is logically connected to that blue net, and I think it is

    not connected to the overlapping. Yellow cross means there is an

    vertical airwire between layers.

     

    Use show on the nets or vias and you will see the whole net highlighted,

    and maybe find connections that shouldnt be there.

     

    Also remember (BEFORE MANUFACTURING!) to do DRC and assert # of

    airwires=0 after ratsnest.

     

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    wilykat over 8 years ago in reply to autodeskguest

    CadSoft Guest wrote:

     

    The VIA there is logically connected to that blue net, and I think it is

    not connected to the overlapping. Yellow cross means there is an

    vertical airwire between layers.

     

    Use show on the nets or vias and you will see the whole net highlighted,

    and maybe find connections that shouldnt be there.

     

     

    Using show, I noticed that the 2 vias for the power connector were both connected to VCC rail when one should be GND, that explains the air wire. Now to fix the yellow X's and check for sneaky air wires

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    wilykat over 8 years ago in reply to autodeskguest

    CadSoft Guest wrote:

     

    The VIA there is logically connected to that blue net, and I think it is

    not connected to the overlapping. Yellow cross means there is an

    vertical airwire between layers.

     

    Use show on the nets or vias and you will see the whole net highlighted,

    and maybe find connections that shouldnt be there.

     

     

    Using show, I noticed that the 2 vias for the power connector were both connected to VCC rail when one should be GND, that explains the air wire. Now to fix the yellow X's and check for sneaky air wires

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