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nlarson over 16 years ago

This thread is now locked - but you can still ask Richard by posting your questions here.  If you'd rather browse other member's questions you can read the CadSoft EAGLE Forums for past questions and answers. Enjoy!

 

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    e14 Contributor over 15 years ago
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    In Eagle I often prefer to route some wires myself (power,  xtal, UBS, etc), and leave the rest to the autorouter. When I am not  pleased with the result I route some more myself, and let the autorouter  have another try.

     

    My problem is undoing the work of the autorouter, without undoing my  own work. The basic way to do this is simply not saving the autoroutered  version, and then loading the board again. But once I make the mistake  of saving the autorouted version (and purging the backups) I still want  to be able to go back to the pre-autorouted version.

     

    One attempt to do this is to identify all autorouted wires in an ULP  and create the command string to RIPUP these segments. I can arrange for  the ULP to identify the autorouted wires, for instance by giving them a  different width. But the RIPUP command seems to ripup the selected wire  segment AND AJACENT SEGMENTS. So far I have not found a command that  rips just the selected wire segment.

     

    I tried the opposite approach: in an ULP, gather all wire segments I   want to keep, do a full ripup, and then restore the wires segments   (using the ROUTE command). No succes, the segments must be in a specific   order for the route commands (not the order in which the ULP finds  them  image ), the via's must be made first, and some more problems.

     

    So I guess I have two questions: - How do you combine hand-routing and auto-routing in an iterative (trial-and-error) way? - Is there a way (probably using ULP and commands) to ripup a subset of wire segments?

     

     

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    e14 Contributor over 15 years ago
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    In Eagle I often prefer to route some wires myself (power,  xtal, UBS, etc), and leave the rest to the autorouter. When I am not  pleased with the result I route some more myself, and let the autorouter  have another try.

     

    My problem is undoing the work of the autorouter, without undoing my  own work. The basic way to do this is simply not saving the autoroutered  version, and then loading the board again. But once I make the mistake  of saving the autorouted version (and purging the backups) I still want  to be able to go back to the pre-autorouted version.

     

    One attempt to do this is to identify all autorouted wires in an ULP  and create the command string to RIPUP these segments. I can arrange for  the ULP to identify the autorouted wires, for instance by giving them a  different width. But the RIPUP command seems to ripup the selected wire  segment AND AJACENT SEGMENTS. So far I have not found a command that  rips just the selected wire segment.

     

    I tried the opposite approach: in an ULP, gather all wire segments I   want to keep, do a full ripup, and then restore the wires segments   (using the ROUTE command). No succes, the segments must be in a specific   order for the route commands (not the order in which the ULP finds  them  image ), the via's must be made first, and some more problems.

     

    So I guess I have two questions: - How do you combine hand-routing and auto-routing in an iterative (trial-and-error) way? - Is there a way (probably using ULP and commands) to ripup a subset of wire segments?

     

     

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    Jorge_Garcia over 15 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    Hi Wouter,

     

    Right now the best way is to not save the autorouter's work, as you already know. Once saved there's isn't an easy way to take remove the autorouter's work.

     

    Hopefully, version 6 will provide a better solution to this problem.

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