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nlarson over 15 years ago

This thread is now locked - but you can still ask Richard by posting your questions here.  If you'd rather browse other member's questions you can read the CadSoft EAGLE Forums for past questions and answers. Enjoy!

 

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  • Richard_H
    Richard_H over 15 years ago in reply to Former Member +1
    Hi Alessio, I am sorry there is no possibility to allow smaller sizes for a netclasse. The Autorouter has to use the given width. You could pre-route a short piece of the signal manually with the smaller…
  • Richard_H
    Richard_H over 15 years ago in reply to lwathelet +1
    Hi Luc, currently there is no other possibility, sorry. Regards, Richard
  • Richard_H
    Richard_H over 15 years ago in reply to Former Member +1
    Hi Edith, the ground layer is an inner layer I suppose. It is defined as a supply layer which is displayed and printed inverted. This means you are not allowed to combine a supply layer with Pads and Vias…
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  • mixed_signal
    mixed_signal over 14 years ago

    I have a custom part for a through-hole connector in which I am overriding the "auto" pad diameter setting.  In the Library/package editor the pads are 32mil dia. with a 20mil drill.  When I place this component in a board design, it shows up with a 40mil pad diameter. Is there any way to ensure we get the desired non-auto pad diameter in the board layout?  I'm using Eagle 5.6.0 Light on on Windows XP Pro.

    Thanks.

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    Richard_H over 14 years ago in reply to mixed_signal

    Hi,

     

    the restring parameter is always taken into consideration. As soon as the value for "minimum restring" is bigger than the resulting value from the library definition, the value will be adjusted. So the pad is bigger than in the library. Please change the resting settings to make it work as you expect.
    For a better understandig how this all works I add a FAQ here:

     

    How to Define the Pad Diameter?

    Since EAGLE version  4.0 the default libraries contain only information about the drill  diameter and the shape of a pad. The diameter value is set to auto, which is the same as 0, by default.

    What does this mean?
    The actual diameter will be calculated in the Layout Editor only. The  calculation rule can be found in the Design Rules (menu Edit/Design  Rules…) in the
    Restring tab. There you are allowed to define different calculation rules for Top, Bottom, and inner layers.

    How is it Calculated?
    The percentage, which is related to the drill diameter is used to  calculate the width of the copper ring that is around the drilling.  Default is 25%. A drill diameter of, for example, 0.032 inches results  in a ring width of 0.008 inches.
    In the next step EAGLE checks if  this value is within the given minimum and maximum boundaries. If so,  the diameter of the pad results for our example in (2 * 0.008) + 0.032 =  0.048 inches.
    Let’s assume the minimum value is set to 0.010  inches. In this case the previously calculated value of 0.008 inches  will be increased in order to accomplish this criteria to 0.010 inches.  The resulting pad diameter will be 0.052 inches now.
    If the  calculated value for the restring exceeds the value of the maximum limit  it will be decreased to the maximum tolerated value.
    The minimum  value represents in principle the Board house’s given production limits.  This is the reason why it is forbidden to exceed the lower limits.

    What Happens if I Define a Diameter in the Package Editor?
    If you choose a value for the pad diameter in the Package Editor, EAGLE  calculates again the width of the copper ring by the given percentage  as soon as you add the part to the layout. The calculated value will be  compared to the pre-defined one, resulting from the given diameter in  the library. If the pre-defined value is smaller than the calculated  value or the minimum limit is exceeded, the pad diameter will be  increased.
    In the case of exceeding the maximum limit, EAGLE will tolerate this. The pad’s diameter won’t be reduced automatically!

    Changing the Design Rules affects the board immediately! Modify the settings for Restring and click the Apply button and you will see the result in the layout directly!
    Restring settings are valid for all the pads in the layout!
    It may happen that the pad diameter shown in the Package Editor or in  the preview of the Device Editor or the Control Panel is not displayed  exactly the same as it is in the Layout Editor because the Design Rules  can be applied in the Layout Editor only!

     

     

    Regards,

    Richard

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    Richard_H over 14 years ago in reply to mixed_signal

    Hi,

     

    the restring parameter is always taken into consideration. As soon as the value for "minimum restring" is bigger than the resulting value from the library definition, the value will be adjusted. So the pad is bigger than in the library. Please change the resting settings to make it work as you expect.
    For a better understandig how this all works I add a FAQ here:

     

    How to Define the Pad Diameter?

    Since EAGLE version  4.0 the default libraries contain only information about the drill  diameter and the shape of a pad. The diameter value is set to auto, which is the same as 0, by default.

    What does this mean?
    The actual diameter will be calculated in the Layout Editor only. The  calculation rule can be found in the Design Rules (menu Edit/Design  Rules…) in the
    Restring tab. There you are allowed to define different calculation rules for Top, Bottom, and inner layers.

    How is it Calculated?
    The percentage, which is related to the drill diameter is used to  calculate the width of the copper ring that is around the drilling.  Default is 25%. A drill diameter of, for example, 0.032 inches results  in a ring width of 0.008 inches.
    In the next step EAGLE checks if  this value is within the given minimum and maximum boundaries. If so,  the diameter of the pad results for our example in (2 * 0.008) + 0.032 =  0.048 inches.
    Let’s assume the minimum value is set to 0.010  inches. In this case the previously calculated value of 0.008 inches  will be increased in order to accomplish this criteria to 0.010 inches.  The resulting pad diameter will be 0.052 inches now.
    If the  calculated value for the restring exceeds the value of the maximum limit  it will be decreased to the maximum tolerated value.
    The minimum  value represents in principle the Board house’s given production limits.  This is the reason why it is forbidden to exceed the lower limits.

    What Happens if I Define a Diameter in the Package Editor?
    If you choose a value for the pad diameter in the Package Editor, EAGLE  calculates again the width of the copper ring by the given percentage  as soon as you add the part to the layout. The calculated value will be  compared to the pre-defined one, resulting from the given diameter in  the library. If the pre-defined value is smaller than the calculated  value or the minimum limit is exceeded, the pad diameter will be  increased.
    In the case of exceeding the maximum limit, EAGLE will tolerate this. The pad’s diameter won’t be reduced automatically!

    Changing the Design Rules affects the board immediately! Modify the settings for Restring and click the Apply button and you will see the result in the layout directly!
    Restring settings are valid for all the pads in the layout!
    It may happen that the pad diameter shown in the Package Editor or in  the preview of the Device Editor or the Control Panel is not displayed  exactly the same as it is in the Layout Editor because the Design Rules  can be applied in the Layout Editor only!

     

     

    Regards,

    Richard

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  • mixed_signal
    mixed_signal over 14 years ago in reply to Richard_H

    Excellent.  Thank you, Richard.  I had also found (very short) post on this at SparkFun: http://forum.sparkfun.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=8370 .  It is good to have the FAQ for reference for everyone now.

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