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Designing an Edge Card PCB

phased
phased over 8 years ago

Hello, I am very new to Eagle. Can someone tell me if there is a step-by-step guide on creating a schematic / design for an edge card (w/ gold fingers) to be used with an IDC connector? Thanks very much in advance!

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  • shabaz
    0 shabaz over 8 years ago

    Hi Troy,

     

    It can be created the same way any component is created in EAGLE, by creating the package, symbol and combining it into a device.

    rachaelp has a very useful series of blog posts which explains the procedure, see here: EAGLE Tutorial: Library Part Creation Part 1 - Creating Packages 

    For your edge connector, I think I would ensure the origin is at the edge, not the centre, so that when it is placed on the board view, it is easy to align it with your board edge.

    If you're looking for an example, see here, the files are downloadable: https://hackaday.io/project/7014-mini-pcie-pic18lf2550-devboard

    Ordinarily there is a bevelled edge, and plating, on such edge connectors, you'd need to let the PCB manufacturer know (or sand-paper it manually if this is a prototype PCB).

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    0 phased over 8 years ago in reply to shabaz

    Hello shabaz,

     

    Thanks for the reply and including the links... I appreciate the help!

     

    Regards,

     

    Troy.

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    0 phased over 8 years ago in reply to phased

    Hello shabaz,

     

    I have gone through the steps necessary to create a package in Eagle for the edge card layout. However, as you say, then creating a symbol and combining it into a device is giving me problems. When you attempt to create a symbol / device, Eagle wants you to add what it calls 'pins' to connect to the pads which were created in the package. The design I am trying to build does not have any actual components. It just has contacts (pads) elsewhere on the board which will connect to each of the fingers on the edge of the board. Would you (or anyone) have any ideas on how to make such a design work so it can be rendered on the schematic and a board manufacturer will understand what to do?

     

    Thanks much!

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    0 phased over 8 years ago in reply to phased

    Hello Rachael,

     

    I am attempting to work through the board layout after successfully completing the schematic and running the ERC with no errors. When running the DRC, however, it throws many Airwire errors and I am having trouble understanding why. The devices I am using are actually very simple... an array of (4) pads which are connected to each other and then (each) connected to one of the 'fingers' of the edge card connector. I guess my first question is why the schematic's ERC would show no problems but the board layout's DRC does when I have changed nothing regarding those connections. Is there anything you can offer to help me troubleshoot this?

    Thank you very much in advance!

     

    Troy.

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    0 phased over 8 years ago in reply to rachaelp

    Hi Rachael,

     

    Thank you very much for staying with me on this! I appreciate the detailed reply and links you sent for reference.

     

    Troy.

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    0 rachaelp over 8 years ago in reply to phased

    Hi Troy,

     

    Following on from my earlier post, here are a few links relating to the plating process for edge connector fingers and also a little more about what is meant by "hard gold".

     

    https://www.eurocircuits.com/blog/gold-plating-for-edge-connectors/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6dH7TvqBVs

    https://advancedplatingtech.com/hard-gold-plating-vs-soft-gold-plating/

     

    Best Regards,

     

    Rachael

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    0 rachaelp over 8 years ago in reply to phased

    Hi Troy,

     

    The length and placement of the symbol pins is purely done to allow clear and accurate schematics to be drawn in order to correctly define the netlist for the design, I.e. what parts are in the design and what connects to what. The tracks on the board will follow whatever path you choose when you draw them, or if you use the auto router (I personally don’t use this as I can for it better myself) it will follow an algorithm in order to connect up according to the net list defined by the schematic.

     

    For the card edge finger plating, you will need to specify this explicitly to your PCB manufacturer, let them know it’s for an edge connector and that the fingers need a “hard gold” plating. If you are unsure about the plating ask your manufacturer for advice. Eurocircuits also do a great YouTube video explaining the process.

     

    Best Regards,

     

    Rachael

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    0 phased over 8 years ago in reply to phased

    Hello Rachael,

     

    If I could trouble you to answer a couple more questions please...

     

    First, I am wondering if the length and placement of the pins for the symbol will ultimately correspond to how the tracks run on the board. So, for example, if the length of the pin is .2 inches and is oriented to project to the right, is that how the board manufacturer will run the track?

    Also, can you tell me how to define that pads should be (gold) plated within Eagle or is that an explicit instruction that the board manufacturer will have to get?

     

    Thank you very much!

     

    Troy.

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    0 phased over 8 years ago in reply to rachaelp

    Hi Rachael,

     

    Yes, that makes complete sense. Thank you very much for your reply!

     

    Troy.

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    0 rachaelp over 8 years ago in reply to phased

    Hi Troy,

     

    The symbol itself doesn't care about layers, this is purely for the schematic where you define the connectivity. In the package you will define pads on the top and bottom side, and then when you create the device as a whole you'll map some of the symbol pins to the top side pads and the remainder of the symbol pins to the bottom side pads. Does this make sense?

     

    Best Regards,


    Rachael

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    0 rachaelp over 8 years ago in reply to phased

    Hi Troy,

     

    The symbol itself doesn't care about layers, this is purely for the schematic where you define the connectivity. In the package you will define pads on the top and bottom side, and then when you create the device as a whole you'll map some of the symbol pins to the top side pads and the remainder of the symbol pins to the bottom side pads. Does this make sense?

     

    Best Regards,


    Rachael

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    0 phased over 8 years ago in reply to phased

    Hello Rachael,

     

    I am attempting to work through the board layout after successfully completing the schematic and running the ERC with no errors. When running the DRC, however, it throws many Airwire errors and I am having trouble understanding why. The devices I am using are actually very simple... an array of (4) pads which are connected to each other and then (each) connected to one of the 'fingers' of the edge card connector. I guess my first question is why the schematic's ERC would show no problems but the board layout's DRC does when I have changed nothing regarding those connections. Is there anything you can offer to help me troubleshoot this?

    Thank you very much in advance!

     

    Troy.

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    0 phased over 8 years ago in reply to rachaelp

    Hi Rachael,

     

    Thank you very much for staying with me on this! I appreciate the detailed reply and links you sent for reference.

     

    Troy.

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    0 rachaelp over 8 years ago in reply to phased

    Hi Troy,

     

    Following on from my earlier post, here are a few links relating to the plating process for edge connector fingers and also a little more about what is meant by "hard gold".

     

    https://www.eurocircuits.com/blog/gold-plating-for-edge-connectors/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6dH7TvqBVs

    https://advancedplatingtech.com/hard-gold-plating-vs-soft-gold-plating/

     

    Best Regards,

     

    Rachael

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    0 rachaelp over 8 years ago in reply to phased

    Hi Troy,

     

    The length and placement of the symbol pins is purely done to allow clear and accurate schematics to be drawn in order to correctly define the netlist for the design, I.e. what parts are in the design and what connects to what. The tracks on the board will follow whatever path you choose when you draw them, or if you use the auto router (I personally don’t use this as I can for it better myself) it will follow an algorithm in order to connect up according to the net list defined by the schematic.

     

    For the card edge finger plating, you will need to specify this explicitly to your PCB manufacturer, let them know it’s for an edge connector and that the fingers need a “hard gold” plating. If you are unsure about the plating ask your manufacturer for advice. Eurocircuits also do a great YouTube video explaining the process.

     

    Best Regards,

     

    Rachael

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    0 phased over 8 years ago in reply to phased

    Hello Rachael,

     

    If I could trouble you to answer a couple more questions please...

     

    First, I am wondering if the length and placement of the pins for the symbol will ultimately correspond to how the tracks run on the board. So, for example, if the length of the pin is .2 inches and is oriented to project to the right, is that how the board manufacturer will run the track?

    Also, can you tell me how to define that pads should be (gold) plated within Eagle or is that an explicit instruction that the board manufacturer will have to get?

     

    Thank you very much!

     

    Troy.

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    0 phased over 8 years ago in reply to rachaelp

    Hi Rachael,

     

    Yes, that makes complete sense. Thank you very much for your reply!

     

    Troy.

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