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Recomendations on panelization software for user array and multiproject?

lamabrew
lamabrew over 7 years ago

After experimenting with the PCB fab house doing the panelizing and the back and forth that entailed, and not getting quite consistent results, I want to take a stab at doing the creation of a user array. I'm using that term to not confuse with the panelizing the fabricator does to put N user boards on a typical raw material blank.

 

For now I'm just interested in making either 2 up (1x2) or 4 up (2x2) array of the same board design - 10mm rails with tooling/fids, routed edges with tabs type thing.

 

Down the road I may want to make a multi-project (i.e. 2 different designs) user array as some of the boards always end up in pairs. In that case though I also need to provide the assembly house with a merged pick and place file with all the offsets correct. I can offset the ref-des' easily enough.

 

I want some tool to generate the panels and DRC the whole thing, etc., hopefully one tool that handles both the N copy user array as well as the N project user array.

 

There are a number of tools out there but they seemed to be more aimed at fabricators and/or have a lot of high end features that aren't needed for 2 or 4 layer boards with >= 6/6 rules. In other words I don't want to spend more on the tool than I spent on CircuitStudio.

 

Hoping someone here might have figured this out and could share what they do.

 

Thanks for any suggestions.

 

Brewster

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  • lamabrew
    lamabrew over 7 years ago in reply to mars01 +1
    Hi Marius, Thank you for the information. It certainly looks promising. I poked around for an AD created embedded array file (some posts said some were on EEVBlog) but didn't turn any up. I know someone…
  • mars01
    mars01 over 7 years ago in reply to bugrobotics +1
    In this case, in the link below you'll find both: - Altium Designer PcbDoc file binary 5.0 (that can be imported by CS) with Embedded board arrays (I've added 3 of them but you can copy them as much as…
  • mars01
    mars01 over 5 years ago in reply to nickverlooy +1 suggested
    Hi Nick, Here is a MEGA link for the file that I've posted above but it is no longer available on that location. https://mega.nz/#!Iop1QAwI!jYsFDiK2PGWofVL3pVxiM3JYQuvzYAhElIuqrtwvfU4 Best, Marius
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    0 mars01 over 7 years ago

    Hi Brewster,

     

    As a first step you could look on this video on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXM_3_9vTBI&ab_channel=harvie256 where @harvie256 explain how to use a PCB file with an embedded array inside (it can only be generated by Altium Designer but once you have a copy you can use it in as many projects as you want; a sort of template).

    I personally don't use the columns and rows feature but I copy the array multiple times, load the board references so they are correctly sized, set a nice Grid value and then arrange the boards on PCB as I see fit. You can copy/paste one of the 'loaded' arrays in case you want multiple copies of the same PCB or just copy the array container and then load the PCB reference for a different PCB. Therefore your requirement of having duplicates of same PCB and/or different designs is covered.

     

    FIducials you can make them yourself and place them in 3 corners of the board (a 1mm diameter pad with 2mm soldermask opening could do the trick). Tooling lines are also rather easy to draw on a Mechanical layer.

     

    If you need an Altium Designer blank PCB file with the embedded array just ask.

     

    Best regards,

    Marius

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  • lamabrew
    0 lamabrew over 7 years ago in reply to mars01

    Hi Marius,

     

    Thank you for the information. It certainly looks promising. I poked around for an AD created embedded array file (some posts said some were on EEVBlog) but didn't turn any up. I know someone with AD and will try and get an array file from him.  Though maybe for the benefit of others that might come across this thread would you be able to post a file somewhere or attach it to this thread? When I get my  array file and make it work I'll also post back here.

     

    Thanks,

     

    Brewster

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  • bugrobotics
    0 bugrobotics over 7 years ago in reply to lamabrew

    I'd be interested in one as well.

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  • bugrobotics
    0 bugrobotics over 7 years ago in reply to lamabrew

    I'd be interested in one as well.

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  • mars01
    0 mars01 over 7 years ago in reply to bugrobotics

    In this case, in the link below you'll find both:

    - Altium Designer PcbDoc file binary 5.0 (that can be imported by CS) with Embedded board arrays (I've added 3 of them but you can copy them as much as you like). It's the source file.

    - for convenience, a Circuit Studio CSPCBDoc file resulted from the import of the above file into CircuitStudio

     

    They are not visible in CS, except a red cross in the origin (in AD they have a green color). But if you click on them they do get a whitish color to signify selection.

     

    https://nofile.io/f/AuEEJuQQpfw/AD_and_CS_PCB_file_with_embedded_board_arrays.zip

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  • bugrobotics
    0 bugrobotics over 7 years ago in reply to mars01

    Thanks Marius!

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  • lamabrew
    0 lamabrew over 7 years ago in reply to mars01

    Hi Marius,

     

    Huge thanks for the pointer to the video and the file example you provided. Saved me a boatload of effort, definitely a 2-beer answer.  I have some other things to do before releasing for fab but the gerbers look great.

     

    Brewster

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