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Sparkylabs
Sparkylabs over 7 years ago

1) If I go to edit my board shape I get put into some undefined mode where I cannot edit it or get out of it. The back button will undo things I have done whilst keeping me in a greyed out - out of control mode. The only way out is to close without saving and loose any changes not saved before entering the attempt to change board outline mode. I am also still confused as to why the outline needs defining twice! because unless I put a line around the board shape the autorouter gets confused and so does the PCB manufacturer! The board shape should define the outline in the Gerber. I can send an example project in.

 

2) Via's: I want to place a series of via's on my board. This board has several layers of different nets. I want my via's to be GND nets. I am constantly asked if I want to repour my plane, if I say yes this means that the plane has to be regenerated for every via I place and will take forever. if I say make unpoured then the via defaults to another net regardless of my setting. I guess I will have unpour all of my polygons and hope for the best! but really this all needs sorting out to make it easier. We have been through this before and demonstrated that things do not behave logically.

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  • Sparkylabs
    0 Sparkylabs over 7 years ago

    Update 2) when I place a via with no poured planes I choose one net but this keeps changing. I have to manually edit dozens of vias!!!!! what a hopeless bunch of idiots that wrote this program. It won't even follow SPECIFIC user input. !!!

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  • Sparkylabs
    0 Sparkylabs over 7 years ago

    3) dragging tabs around does not even work although appears to be supposed to be possible

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  • e14softwareuk
    0 e14softwareuk over 7 years ago in reply to Sparkylabs

    1) It is normal to need three board outlines for a design

    1. Board definition (as seen in 3D view)
    2. Gerber board outline on the Outline layer
    3. Copy of board outline on the global Keepout Layer

    In general it can be easier to use the option to define board outline (3D view) by selecting an existing set of primitives (e.g. the gerber outline) and using the option to define from primitives.

     

    2) If your polygons are unpoured (typically the easiest way to work on a board) you can place several vias with a given net. Start the via command, hit TAB and define the net and then place on to the board. All the vias should keep the same net until you are done. Don't try to copy and paste vias as this does revert the net to unconnected.

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  • Sparkylabs
    0 Sparkylabs over 7 years ago in reply to e14softwareuk

    OK I will have a go with the board outline from the board edge line. I don't understand, a board edge is the same in the gerber, in the 3D model and as a default keep out area or better put a keep in area not that CS abides by it. This is a joke! what sane person does not have these three elements the same?

     

    2) DOES NOT WORK, THE VIA CHANGES OF IT'S OWN ACCORD BECAUSE CIRCUIT STUDIO IS BUGGY!!!! the only way out is to place via's not on the board and then move them which is a silly work around for buggy software!

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  • e14softwareuk
    0 e14softwareuk over 7 years ago in reply to Sparkylabs

    I've tried reproducing your via issue but cannot. I start placing a via, hit TAB and change the net, place one or more vias. If it place over a poured polygon I get the dialog and select make unpoured and carry on placing vias. The only time a via changes net is if placed onto an existing track otherwise they keep the net I specified just prior to starting placement.

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  • Sparkylabs
    0 Sparkylabs over 7 years ago in reply to e14softwareuk

    The problem is that there are multiple planes with different nets and CS decides by itself which one to use even though they are all unpoured.

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    0 e14softwareuk over 7 years ago in reply to Sparkylabs

    You are correct - I've reproduced and seemingly no way to change the behaviour. As you said the only way is to place elsewhere and move afterwards. Would be nice if there was an option and even unpouring the polygons first doesn't make any difference.

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  • Sparkylabs
    0 Sparkylabs over 7 years ago in reply to e14softwareuk

    It's not a lack of an option, it is a bug, the same as copy and paste not working is a bug........

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  • Sparkylabs
    0 Sparkylabs over 7 years ago

    A further bug. If I have a polygon pour in a solder paste layer assigned to a net it also covers other nets in what will be a massive short circuit!

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  • voltsandjolts
    0 voltsandjolts over 7 years ago in reply to Sparkylabs

    nonsense input = nonsense output

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