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Pad to pad rules exception for the same component - HOW?

olemi
olemi over 6 years ago

Did someone figure out how to configure exception from the pad-to-pad clearance rule for a given components or just the same components in general?

 

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  • frog
    0 frog over 6 years ago

    To the best of my knowledge you can't do this (and I'm not an authority on the subject) but it raises the question of why would you want such an exception.  If that spacing is acceptable on one place then why not in any other place?  To the best of my knowledge you could create a design rule that allows a smaller spacing for those two nets, or to allow a smaller spacing between SM pads specifically (which is perhaps the closest thing to what you really want).

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    Were it me I'd change the offending pads (or all of them for that matter) to rounded rectangle as per IPC recommendations.

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  • olemi
    0 olemi over 6 years ago in reply to frog

    It's standard practice to limit spacing 0.2mm to be at the edge of manufacturer's capabilities for the whole design and avoid crossed PCB on the panel, but have ICs with smaller spacing on the same design. The soft really need "pad-to-pad for the same component" rule. Limitation by nets will not work well. Additionally, it's a pain to configure 64 rules for a 64-pins IC. Indeed, spacing between SMD pads is the closest, but then DRC will not check pads of different components. I though about a workaround where I would need to draw a courtyard around each component at the distance half of what I need between pads of different components with following courtyard-to-courtyard DRC Rule, but I didn't find any suitable rule. Which rules stands for component-to-components? Courtyard is responsible for controlling spacing between components?

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  • e14softwareuk
    0 e14softwareuk over 6 years ago in reply to olemi

    There is a separate rule category for component clearance under Placement > Component Clearance.

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    0 olemi over 6 years ago in reply to e14softwareuk

    They don't work for that purpose. They are based on 3D models. This is, btw, wrong solution - pads can go far from components shape. Averaging is not applicable here, all components are different. For components clearance the only correct way is to check outlines or courtyards clearance. So, I guess no workaround here expect setting pad-to-pad high globally.

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    0 e14softwareuk over 6 years ago in reply to olemi

    The component clearance can be based on 3D models but you can draw an outline (e.g. courtyard top) that can be used to help with clearance - the horizontal clearance rule.

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    0 olemi over 6 years ago in reply to e14softwareuk

    The horizontal clearance for placement rule? It doesn't work. I can put courtyard on courtyard.

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  • batuu
    0 batuu over 6 years ago in reply to e14softwareuk

    Hallo Peter,

     

    do component clearance based on courtyard works for you? I've never gotten that to work. Component clearance seem to only take 3D models into account.

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    0 e14softwareuk over 6 years ago in reply to batuu

    The test I performed was for components without 3D bodies attached and a very exaggerated courtyard top border. The DRC was definitely using this outer border when highlighting distance rule violations. However I think the system simply uses anything associated with a footprint when checking distances so it is not possible to force the use of courtyard and to ignore anything else associated with the component.

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    0 olemi over 6 years ago in reply to e14softwareuk

    image It is described in the doc that without 3D model the system will try to use other elements.

    That's why I told there should be a rule for placement based not on 3D model.

    So, no workaround for this expect having global pad-to-pad set low.

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