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Board cutouts don't show in Gerbers, was Generating arcs for milling slots in Gerbers

lamabrew
lamabrew over 6 years ago

For posterity, here is the original message.  Please see new message for an update/re-ask as to me this now seems like either a "bug" or a lack of explanation of how it's supposed to work, or both.

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I must be overlooking some obvious step.  In the past I created (straight) milling slots by using elongated pads and that worked out well. But that doesn't work for arcs or other more complex shapes where I need to control the panelization (i.e. not simply defining the board shape in the gerber and let the board house do whatever it wants).

 

Using regions (created from primitives using the "hidden" Create region from primitives command) that I define as being board cutouts I get exactly what I want in the PCB editor. (slots are 2mm - default milling bit size, with tabs with 5-hole perfs).

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I realize the board house will most likely want just the path for the router and not its actual shape, but I want to create gerbers with the routed slots so there's no confusion about inside vs. outside edge. As well as I like having the 3D view look like what I expect to get.

 

However when I create the Gerbers and NC drill files the slots don't show up in them when I examine them in my two viewers (GC-prevue and ZofzPCB).

 

Anyone have any guidance on creating slots like this?

 

Whatever board house gets used (most likely PCBWay) will have specific guidance (though I looked on their site and they don't for this case so if I do use them I'll obviously see what they want).  However at this point I just want to get a set of "generic" gerbers such that someone with a gerber viewer will see something that looks like the above rendering in CS's PCBEditor.

 

Thanks,

Brewster

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  • lamabrew
    lamabrew over 6 years ago in reply to frog +1
    @Frog I marked you as "correct" as you said it much more succinctly than my rambling question. Thank you for the help. However CS had other plans for me - yesterday one of the region board cutout slots…
  • frog
    frog over 6 years ago in reply to lamabrew +1
    As with so many things in life, we have to go with what we have. And despite its many imperfections, CS is what we have. Besides, there are more stuff-ups from the other side of the keyboard (mine at least…
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  • frog
    0 frog over 6 years ago

    If you draw arcs on the 'outline' layer they will appear in the corresponding gerber.  Outline is a mechanical layer and may not be enabled by default.

    I've done this successfully on a number of PCBs, if in any doubt I'll send an image of what I expect the board to look like.  However, CS's idea of what the board outline is appears to be separate, so the 3D preview doesn't automatically pick them up.  I think that a better (although slightly more involved) method advocated by Peter Barnard involves creating board cutouts, although I never quite got the hang of creating arcs just the way I want them.

     

    Hope that helps.

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    0 frog over 6 years ago

    If you draw arcs on the 'outline' layer they will appear in the corresponding gerber.  Outline is a mechanical layer and may not be enabled by default.

    I've done this successfully on a number of PCBs, if in any doubt I'll send an image of what I expect the board to look like.  However, CS's idea of what the board outline is appears to be separate, so the 3D preview doesn't automatically pick them up.  I think that a better (although slightly more involved) method advocated by Peter Barnard involves creating board cutouts, although I never quite got the hang of creating arcs just the way I want them.

     

    Hope that helps.

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    0 lamabrew over 6 years ago in reply to frog

    @Frog Thanks for looking at this.   I restated my problem, which is basically agreement with your observation that there's no simple way to get the 3D rendering to match, i.e. board cutouts don't show in the Gerbers (so what's the point of them?) and you can't say "make the primitives on layer X render as cutouts".

     

    So for now my workaround is use both overlaid on each other: board cutouts to make the 3D right and drawn primitives on a layer (GKO in my case for the board house) so they know what to do.

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