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How to ensure ground plane copper pour is actually connected to the GND net?

nabelekt0
nabelekt0 over 3 years ago

In my PCB layout, part of which is shown below, I have a copper pour serving as a ground plane. A problem that I didn't catch with this design before having it fabricated is that a couple of regions of copper pour are not actually connected to the GND net at all. Below, the pour that pads 15 and 21 are connected to, both GND pads for an MCU, is not at all connected to the GND net. Same for the region that includes the GND pad above the 1 "NetLED3_1" pad on the far right. I use the Autoroute tool to do pretty much all of the routing. Once the auto-routing is done, the polygon/copper pour gets re-poured.

 

So, my question is: how can I ensure that GND plane regions, which may not be contiguous with the GND plane region that is in the GND net, does get connected to the GND net with a via or something else?

 

I taught myself PCB layout and still have a lot to learn, so any education is welcome. Thanks!

 

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  • shabaz
    0 shabaz over 3 years ago

    Hi Thomas,

     

    You can see the faint airwaves on the screenshot that you supplied, so basically the issue was that there were airwaves that hadn't been turned into traces before you generated the CAM files. I don't use Altium so I can't point you to the specifics, but generally some things you could do would be:

    (1) run a check for airwaves if it exists, or (say) find the command to center the view onto the nearest airwave or find a way of highlighting the nearest airwave, that can be a good trick to find the very hidden airwaves.

    (2) run an error-check before generating any CAM output. There will be such a function that will provide warnings or errors, and study each warning and error to be sure if you really can ignore a warning or not.

    (3) generally when laying out a PCB, it could be worth putting a 0V via near all the microcontroller ground pins. Personally I often put the decoupling capacitor at right angles, so that one end of the decoupling capacitor goes to 0V through another via (or two). I'm not saying you should follow that, and for sure it's not suitable for all boards, but it's definitely worth checking the reference design (if it exists) to see what they do. In a similar vein, put a 0V via near any other component ground connection, unless you've got very specific reasons not to do that.

    (4) You should also check your design rules, because you've got what look like very thin copper between each pin of the microcontroller, and that's unusual. You can set the design rules so that it can't fit copper in between those pads. For the top layer, often there's no need to have the copper flood so close to the traces, you can back it off somewhat. From my perspective (others may disagree) the top flood use-case is mainly only to stop boards warping due to unbalanced amounts of copper on the two sides. This is assuming the underside of the board is being used (at least mainly) as a ground plane.

    (5) You'll get better results by manually routing. Personally I cannot do a good job routing manually in one go, so I'll do it manually in two attempts: first I'll route crudely, not taking much care about fine positioning of traces, and then I'll take a second pass, lifting up traces, to route more neatly the second time.

    I hope this info helps, good luck : )

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  • shabaz
    0 shabaz over 3 years ago

    Hi Thomas,

     

    You can see the faint airwaves on the screenshot that you supplied, so basically the issue was that there were airwaves that hadn't been turned into traces before you generated the CAM files. I don't use Altium so I can't point you to the specifics, but generally some things you could do would be:

    (1) run a check for airwaves if it exists, or (say) find the command to center the view onto the nearest airwave or find a way of highlighting the nearest airwave, that can be a good trick to find the very hidden airwaves.

    (2) run an error-check before generating any CAM output. There will be such a function that will provide warnings or errors, and study each warning and error to be sure if you really can ignore a warning or not.

    (3) generally when laying out a PCB, it could be worth putting a 0V via near all the microcontroller ground pins. Personally I often put the decoupling capacitor at right angles, so that one end of the decoupling capacitor goes to 0V through another via (or two). I'm not saying you should follow that, and for sure it's not suitable for all boards, but it's definitely worth checking the reference design (if it exists) to see what they do. In a similar vein, put a 0V via near any other component ground connection, unless you've got very specific reasons not to do that.

    (4) You should also check your design rules, because you've got what look like very thin copper between each pin of the microcontroller, and that's unusual. You can set the design rules so that it can't fit copper in between those pads. For the top layer, often there's no need to have the copper flood so close to the traces, you can back it off somewhat. From my perspective (others may disagree) the top flood use-case is mainly only to stop boards warping due to unbalanced amounts of copper on the two sides. This is assuming the underside of the board is being used (at least mainly) as a ground plane.

    (5) You'll get better results by manually routing. Personally I cannot do a good job routing manually in one go, so I'll do it manually in two attempts: first I'll route crudely, not taking much care about fine positioning of traces, and then I'll take a second pass, lifting up traces, to route more neatly the second time.

    I hope this info helps, good luck : )

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