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Anything special to get USB to work on the side of the case?

garengllc
garengllc over 8 years ago

I have a Moto Z and was hoping to connect an RTL-SDR dongle to the side of the proto case.  I attempted to setup the dip switches to enable the USB 3.1 interface and connected a USB OTG cable, but the phone is still not recognizing the device (I am using the middle USB connection).  Is there something else that I am missing?

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  • flowflow25
    flowflow25 over 8 years ago in reply to anttibrain +2 suggested
    Some notes on USB to try and answer several of the questions here. USB3 is literally just that, the USB3 PHY. It does not include the additional lines for USB2 (those have their own dedicated interface…
  • anttibrain
    anttibrain over 8 years ago +1 suggested
    Please read the documents the switches you need are the A3/A4 the USB 3.1 switches are not relevant if you want to use RTL dongle that is pure USB2 device. Unfortunatly I can not test anything here as…
  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett over 8 years ago in reply to anttibrain +1
    I'm interested in the FPGA side of things but not into the moto-z. My application for TE0725 is to do prototyping for new designs where we will use Artix FPGA (probably 100 size) and also for use in test…
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    0 anttibrain over 8 years ago

    Please read the documents the switches you need are the A3/A4 the USB 3.1 switches are not relevant if you want to use RTL dongle that is pure USB2 device.

     

    Unfortunatly I can not test anything here as Android update did break the moto mods functionality completly, so USB is not working here, but I do not know if it is because of the problems with MDK or not.

     

    Android update that moto-Z forced, thid brake the MDK functions completly here. JBL booster works, but MDK and any personality modules and LED demo, none of that works now.

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    0 michaelkellett over 8 years ago in reply to anttibrain

    @Antti - did you design the Trenz TE0725 - I've just been looking at the data sheet.

     

    I assume you are the same Antti of Brain Dump from years ago on newsnet - I used to really like them !

     

    Nice to see you here.

     

    MK

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    0 anttibrain over 8 years ago in reply to michaelkellett

    Yes I did, for moto-z best ist to use 725LP, it can power from the 1.8V DCDC that is on MDK, we are developing several personality mods that include FPGA's so stay tuned.. with Xilinx but also with lattice low power ones

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    0 michaelkellett over 8 years ago in reply to anttibrain

    I'm interested in the FPGA side of things but not into the moto-z. My application for TE0725 is to do prototyping for new designs where we will use Artix FPGA (probably 100 size) and also for use in test gear where we might only ever build a few boards and I don't want to use BGAs on a hand made board.

     

    I'm very taken with the Lattice 48pin ICE5LP (small, cheap, low power and hand solderable) - I'm debugging a remote controlled multi stage RF amplifier controlled by one right now.

     

    MK

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    0 michaelkellett over 8 years ago in reply to anttibrain

    I'm interested in the FPGA side of things but not into the moto-z. My application for TE0725 is to do prototyping for new designs where we will use Artix FPGA (probably 100 size) and also for use in test gear where we might only ever build a few boards and I don't want to use BGAs on a hand made board.

     

    I'm very taken with the Lattice 48pin ICE5LP (small, cheap, low power and hand solderable) - I'm debugging a remote controlled multi stage RF amplifier controlled by one right now.

     

    MK

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    0 anttibrain over 8 years ago in reply to michaelkellett

    Hi

    I see, yes ICE40 are also nice for small function. The soldering is however OTHER way around: QFN are more problematic both for hand as machine soldering, the BGA 0.8mm and larger are much easier also for handsoldering!

     

    BGA soldering 101

    * take BGA GEL (not solder flux very important!) thickest one you can get IF8300 http://www.interflux.com/sites/default/files/documents/en/TD%20IF%208300.pdf

    * some gel to PCB use fingertip to make it even make sure not too much and all land pads covered

    * place BGA by hand

    * adjust BGA, look side wise

    * apply little pressure from top

    * bake, kitchen oven is OK also, proven!

     

    100% soldering always all balls guaranteed! Way easier than QFN

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    0 michaelkellett over 8 years ago in reply to anttibrain

    Hello Antti,

     

    I do the QFN in a similar way but apply solder paste with horrible cheap Chinese dispenser which leaks air. Heat on a little hotplate . The nice thing about QFN is that I can see the joints and touch them up.

    I have tried with BGA but not so confident  - perhaps I'll take encouragement from you and have another go. Thanks for the gel suggestion - I have some "sticky flux" but it's not that sticky.

    I found some IF8300 at Amazon and have ordered it.

     

    Thanks.

     

    MK

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    0 anttibrain over 8 years ago in reply to michaelkellett

    IF8300 ist best and known working well, there other I just do not know, may also work. With very little practice you should be able to have perfect BGA soldering for 0.8 and actually also for 0.5 mm BGA. Of course the PCB must be done properly as well, so with good PCB design and professionally manufactured PCB it works. I only tried with ENIG PCB's but well its almost all ENIG anyways now..

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