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Former Member over 13 years ago

So you have the pi out of the box , all plumed in ,what size SD to use , what os to use ?  where to find programs for the kids  ?.

How to get started quickly so as to keep their interests . I've had a scoot on the net and am reeling from the amount of o.t.t. tec

and re direction . most of it to highbrow for novic minds and time consuming .We would like the kis principal .

Keep it simple . is the to much to ask . Thank you Mums and Dads .Oh we don't got one yet .

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    johnbeetem over 13 years ago

    RasPi's first production release was targetted towards developers -- people who could get all this information from the FAQ (currently suspended), Wiki (http://elinux.org/RaspberryPiBoard), and Forum (currently suspended), and aren't fazed by a bare board with no case, power supply, SD card, cables, or peripherals.  The education release with case and book is slated for later this year.  The hope is that enough developers will get RasPis soon so they can create and/or port software that will be useful for students and newbies.

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    Former Member over 13 years ago

    This is the developer release. There will be pre-programmed SD cards. There will be user guides and text books. There will be user-friendly GUI environments and plug-and-play home cinema experiences. Later. Sometime around September. That will be the Educational release. This is the Developer release; it's for developers, who are now going to generate all that goodness that you want.

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    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to johnbeetem

    Thanks for the info john but we want to develop our understanding asap . you know the old saying .

    On the shoulders of Giants you can see further , no time like the present .

    It's the whole package ie . preprogrammed  SD cards and programms in txt  . but you know that .?:.

    I am trying to get the format started so when us non developers get started we might just catch up .

    Thanks once again .

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    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Thank you richard ,  september is a long way off , the board is for budding young minds not just developers as it was designed with youngsters in mind and we are realy looking for like minded keen  enthusiastic novices and developers who are prepaired to

    ease the transition into programing for same ,. primeraly they want to generate their own goodies .,.home cinema not being one of them ."with respect".

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    Former Member over 13 years ago

    It's my guess that a lot of enterprising people will be looking at ways of making this easy, but they need to get their hands on hardware first.

     

    I would not be surprised if by about Christmas there are pre-loaded SD cards available for educational things, games etc. all needing no more knowledge to get started than plugging it in and switching it on.

     

    They will be for sale in the same sort of places that cassettes for the original Spectrum and BBC Micro were on sale in the 80s.

     

    The Pi supply is going from a few dozen in the world now to 10,000 in the next few weeks, then I guess hundreds of thousands in the next few months.  A lot of those will go to enthuiastic developers and all sorts of things will emerge.  But software takes a remarkably long time to develop; it looks almost finished quite quickly but getting it reliable and well documented seems to take for ever.

     

    Chris

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    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Thank you Chris and I agree with your sentimets whole heartily but like the other contributors . I think your missing the

    point . The device from our perspective  was designed as a cheep alternative to the more expensive consumer lead devices

    and capable of being an inexpensive Educational tool .with bells and whistles .

    The kids want to explore the inexpensive world of computing not line the pockets of "greedy rip off developers and sharlitans",

    Remember the software for the zx80 some got rich on crap .

    The pi is intended to be a peoples kit with philanthropic overtones but onse again having scrached the surface I see the vultures

    lurking . "Developers " .

     

    ~Have a nice day .

              Paul

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    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to johnbeetem

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    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    What vultures? Look at the open source community. Almost anything "Closed source" has a free, or at least cheap, open-source alternative. The Pi is even running an Open-source OS.A good amount of people interested in the RaspPi are hobbyists and amateurs (By that I don't mean "lack of skill" so much as "passionate"). They won't be in it for the money, they'll be in it for the kicks. For the pride of being part of something.

     

    Wait a few months and there will be plenty of free packages released for you to play with.

     

    You want education? You have in your hands a device that requires skills you don't currently have to make it do what you want. You have an oppurtunity and an internet full of information. Learn something. Hack, tinker. Make it work.

     

    And if you can't, then wait. Give the community time. They'll do the hard work for you. You know, instead of likening them all to vultures and slandering the lot of them.

     

    I understand your point about the first wave being focused on their own personal projects, but the great thing about it is that whatever they make for their own projects might end up being useful in other contexts. And for I suspect a good amount of them, there will be an interest in developping free software for educational purposes. Plus, since this is going to run Arch Linux, there's probably a base of available packages already. This isn't the barren wasteland you imagine it to be.

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    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Thank you Belial

    I couldn't agree with you more  but I was not slandering  any one but the vultures who will take every opportunity to rip off

    what is intended to be an extremlly inovative tool ..

    I apologise  for any offence to those who have taken my thoughts on the matter the wrong way . Try reading between the lines .

    Best wishes  to yo all . and raspberry .

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