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Role for FPGA or CPLD with Raspberry Pi

michaelkellett
michaelkellett over 13 years ago

Interesting - we obviously move in rather different circles despite being in the same business:

 

Take the current project:

 

One master processor (ARM Cortex M4 with ARM serial debugging port and 4 wire trace, Ethernet, USB and serial for debugging)

One supervisor processor (ARM Cortext M0 with ARM serial debugging port)

FPGA with JTAG port

Up to 6 slave processors (ARM Cortex M4s with ARM serial debugging ports)

All in one little box about 25cm x 160cm x 5cm

 

Now to bring up the Ethernet on the master processor I can use its serial port for "printf" error messages (from the Ethernet/TCP/IP library) and the ARM debugging port to load/run/trace the processor. The ARM trace interace box (Keil Ulink Pro) is a USB interface to the development PC.

The superivisor processor is connected via another Ulink to another PC.

The FPGA JTAG interface is USB to yet another PC.

The fourth PC runs Wiresharc and is connected by Ethernet to see what's coming out.

 

It would be nice if the debug tools had Ethernet rather than USB interfaces but they don't.

I could isolate the serial debug port but since I must have three other non-isolated connections it's not worth the effort.

 

This system is all quite low power - so certainly safe to humans and fairly safe to computers. (The really exposed parts are the debug interfaces and there is nothing to be done about that since they need fast conenctions to the hardware.)

In the last 10 years I've lost one debugger and one PC due to my mistakes and in the same time at least 10 PCs have just died (as they do) so it's a cost effective approach.

 

Of course when these things connect to external systems handling real power different rules apply.

 

(AFIK most Ethernet interfaces are not specifically tested for mains safety - either during qualification or as part of normal regular safety checks (and the flash test requirement for Ethernet magnetics is 1500V AC which is OK for some equipment but not for all)).

 

Michael Kellett

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  • morgaine
    morgaine over 13 years ago

    Thanks Drew!  Yes, this looks good, Michael's post makes a perfect thread starter, and your choice of subject line was spot on. image

     

    PS. Old messages still bear their old subject line, so to leave that behind, replies are best made to the starter article or to new posts.

     

    PS2. There may be a bug currently, as "Role for FPGA or CPLD with Raspberry Pi" is not appearing in the recent discussions list.

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    fustiniadmin over 13 years ago in reply to morgaine

    Sorry for the inconvenience, and thank you for raising these issues.

     

    Yeah, it does look like the individual comments in this branched thread still carry the old subject.  I'll open an issue to investigate that.

     

    I see odd behavior for the Recent discussions on the Raspberry Pi group (http://www.element14.com/community/groups/raspberry-pi), too.  I see this thread listed when logged in as 'fustini' but not as 'fustiniadmin' or guest.  I'll investigate this further as well.

     

    Unfortunately, I don't think I can resolve these issues via admin configuration changes, and it will probably require a code change.  I can't give an exact timeline, but it would likely be more than a week for a fix would to go live.  Therefore, I think it might be best to start a new thread if this conversation continues.

     

    Thanks,

    Drew

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    fustiniadmin over 13 years ago in reply to morgaine

    Sorry for the inconvenience, and thank you for raising these issues.

     

    Yeah, it does look like the individual comments in this branched thread still carry the old subject.  I'll open an issue to investigate that.

     

    I see odd behavior for the Recent discussions on the Raspberry Pi group (http://www.element14.com/community/groups/raspberry-pi), too.  I see this thread listed when logged in as 'fustini' but not as 'fustiniadmin' or guest.  I'll investigate this further as well.

     

    Unfortunately, I don't think I can resolve these issues via admin configuration changes, and it will probably require a code change.  I can't give an exact timeline, but it would likely be more than a week for a fix would to go live.  Therefore, I think it might be best to start a new thread if this conversation continues.

     

    Thanks,

    Drew

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    fustiniadmin over 13 years ago in reply to fustiniadmin

    Good news - I believe this thread should appear normally now in all feeds and widgets.  It seems an issue with language filtering is the reason why the thread wasn't being listed.  I edited the top post in this thread and set the language type to English again (even though it was already English).  This seems to have done the trick and I am able to see this thread in Recent Discussions as guest and logged in with my account along with a new test user.

     

    I'll continue investigating the cause of this issue and also the subject issue, but I believe this particular thread should be ok now.

     

    Thanks,

    Drew

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  • morgaine
    morgaine over 13 years ago in reply to fustiniadmin

    Excellent, thank you Drew. image

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  • morgaine
    morgaine over 13 years ago in reply to morgaine

    The Spartan-3E-based Papilio One which I mentioned above has a fairly reasonable price for the 250K-gate version:

     

    • $50 from the worldwide site http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/papilio-one-250k-p-809.html?cPath=132_192
    • UKP 39 + VAT from SK Pang in the UK -- http://www.skpang.co.uk/catalog/papilio-one-250k-p-894.html

     

    so it's *almost* in the Rpi price niche, and certainly in the wider Arduino price niche.

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