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How to Get Kids interested?

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Former Member over 13 years ago

Are We Too Old?

 

I've been looking a lot at the discussions recently and many of them are obviously brilliantly erudite and knowledgable about the benefits of this bit of hardware or OS sub/version that could have been included/added to make this great concept machine better. It strikes me that, while these types of discussion are needed (somewhere) to explore what can be done with the technology, it's rather missing the moot point of how do you make this opportuity interesting to kids. If it isn't interesting in some way they aren't going to use it!

 

It is terrific that much time and energy (or at least discussion) has been spent on promoting ways that the Pi can be used in schools - and this needs to be done to provide a firm infrastructure for teachers who, in the most part, don't have a programming background and will themselves need to be taught how to get the best of it - but I think it's a bit of 'clubby' enthusiasm to envisage that this, of itself, will cause kids to want to use it.

 

My own background is probably similar to many of you - I've been earning my living as a system and applications programmer for the last 35 years (I'm 56) and basically taught myself how to do it in my 20's. I'm an old dad and have two sons - 13 and 8 yo, who I've tried to get interested in programming from the age that they first started sitting on keyboards. So far it's been a case of toleration by them of 'Dads wierd hobby'. To a degree I can see their point as 'Hello World' is far less interesting than a complete virtual environment to re-live a past war in HD, or trying to get a multicoloured dragon bred!

 

I am impressed however (BTW I'm easily impressed by my kids - it's just one of those dad things) at the amount of complex information that is passed between game players (of all ages) to achieve the next level via social networking and 'word of mouth' at school. Even my eight year old knows hacks and shortcuts through games that leave me baffled.

 

It strikes me that a small amount of energy should be spent approaching game companies to see if that would be willing to help to build 'programming the Pi' into a game strategy. The game companies employ very clever, well paid, and no doubt socially interested people who are much closer to the target market (kids) than we will ever be, while the Pi costs less than most game cards.

 

We may find that with the right 'out of the box' thinking, the worthy efforts of all people over the age of 25 may prove nothing to a 'Programming Craze' that goes viral!

 

Colin

 

PS It just goes to show how different a mental world we live-in that I've just spent about five mins checking the syntax and punctuation of this post. My son would probably have said it in a more abbreviated way in txt-speak which, sadly, I can't emulate as I am not fluent in it! C Yo!

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    Former Member over 13 years ago

    I don't see the Pi taking off in the same way that the Sinclair Mk14 SC/MP micro kit did, the Cambridge Scientific Calculator did or the BBC Micro or PET did. Those things were a success because they were NEW - i.e. you could do stuff with them that nobody could do before, it had never been seen before and the possibilities stretched the mind. The Pi though is just re-inventing the wheel (and an old fashioned one at that!). To even get one working, you already need to own a standard PC. And even then it helps to own a 2nd monitor, mouse and kbd.

    Kids are interested in the latest Tech and NEW things and I just don;t see the Pi being any of these. It has a few things going for it - it is cheap and small.

    I think the idea of a games machine is a good idea but I don't see most kids writing their own games - they can already do this on a normal PC and the investment they need to make in terms of time and dedication just is not worth it in their eyes - it is a lot easier just to wait for the next version of COD to come out and buy it!

    I can see the Pi working in Education only if it is used as a building block to make a dedicated 'box' which fulfils a dedicated purpose - i.e. a 'maker' project.

    Some possible projects could be:

    1. A large, wifi connected display screen as an interactive bulletin board - this could be used in school to display information (maybe pulled from a network drive or the web) - maybe with touch screen functionality.

    2. Used as the 'brain' for a robot project.

    3. Make a dedicated wifi connected NetFlix box to connect to your TV (with an IR controller)

    4. Make a 'granny' internet PC - make a simple, foolproof internet box which connects to grannies TV or a separate monitor and can be easily set up to use ADSL. This can be left at grannies house so she can talk to you via Skype (with webcam), use email and do internet browsing/shopping. If anything goes wrong she just needs to switch it off and on again.

    5. Make a cheap NAS box for the home

    6. Make a cheap freeview Personal Video Recorder (PVR) box

     

    Any others?

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    Former Member over 13 years ago

    I don't see the Pi taking off in the same way that the Sinclair Mk14 SC/MP micro kit did, the Cambridge Scientific Calculator did or the BBC Micro or PET did. Those things were a success because they were NEW - i.e. you could do stuff with them that nobody could do before, it had never been seen before and the possibilities stretched the mind. The Pi though is just re-inventing the wheel (and an old fashioned one at that!). To even get one working, you already need to own a standard PC. And even then it helps to own a 2nd monitor, mouse and kbd.

    Kids are interested in the latest Tech and NEW things and I just don;t see the Pi being any of these. It has a few things going for it - it is cheap and small.

    I think the idea of a games machine is a good idea but I don't see most kids writing their own games - they can already do this on a normal PC and the investment they need to make in terms of time and dedication just is not worth it in their eyes - it is a lot easier just to wait for the next version of COD to come out and buy it!

    I can see the Pi working in Education only if it is used as a building block to make a dedicated 'box' which fulfils a dedicated purpose - i.e. a 'maker' project.

    Some possible projects could be:

    1. A large, wifi connected display screen as an interactive bulletin board - this could be used in school to display information (maybe pulled from a network drive or the web) - maybe with touch screen functionality.

    2. Used as the 'brain' for a robot project.

    3. Make a dedicated wifi connected NetFlix box to connect to your TV (with an IR controller)

    4. Make a 'granny' internet PC - make a simple, foolproof internet box which connects to grannies TV or a separate monitor and can be easily set up to use ADSL. This can be left at grannies house so she can talk to you via Skype (with webcam), use email and do internet browsing/shopping. If anything goes wrong she just needs to switch it off and on again.

    5. Make a cheap NAS box for the home

    6. Make a cheap freeview Personal Video Recorder (PVR) box

     

    Any others?

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